“all the computers acquired by Mr Bangert from LRC should be housed in Mr Bangert's research area for his exclusive use, enabling him to pursue his research without any hindrance; any piece of equipment which was the personal property of Mr Bangert must be removed from the teaching laboratory equipment and be returned to Mr Bangert immediately; All network cards and hard disks acquired by Mr Bangert from the LRC should be returned to him as soon as practically possible. However, if Mr Bangert needs any of this equipment urgently then this action should be taken immediately.”
“I am sure you remember Thomas. How can you forget!! As you very well know that we have been having a great deal of difficulties with Thomas. I remember your recommendation of getting rid of him a year or so ago. However, for some reason Dr Peng (his supervisor) did not take any action what so ever to straighten things out with him. I did not interfere with Dr Peng's affairs to keep the peace within the group. Now that Dr Peng has gone and we are left with Thomas we want to take some firm actions to limit his unacceptable behaviour. On the other hand I don't think, as you predicted quite some time ago, that his Ph.D. is progressing in the right direction. It is impossible to have any meaningful discussion with him as you have experienced in the past. In semester 1, Thomas was given the opportunity by Dave Protheroe to teach one of his units in software. During the course of that semester things went pretty bad between Dave and Thomas and now Thomas has started a grievances action against Dave. Prof. Bridge has been dragged in to the dispute. Prof. Bridge asked me about Thomas's Ph.D. progress. I told him that Dr Peng did not leave any progress report on Thomas despite the fact that I specifically asked for it. Since Dr Peng left I tried saveral [sic] times to hold a meaningful discussion with Thomas but in vain. It has been impossible for me to get any sense out of him. I also mentioned to Bryan that you tried your best in the beginning to communicate with him and to advise him on his Ph.D. work but Thomas never listened to your advice and eventually you had to give up. Bryan suggested that it would be very useful to have a statement from you expressing your views of his behaviour and your work experiences with Thomas. This will confirm his unreasonable bahaviour [sic] towards all of us. Bryan also asked me to make a statement expressing my views of him. Neil Alford has also been involved and reached situration [sic] point with Thomas. I would appreciate it if you could drop a few lines expressing your views on this matter. Thanks.”
“After first meeting Thomas we had a protracted exchange of e-mail, during which I was attempting to get him to explain and focus his ideas. His proposal at the time was to demonstrate some form of learning algorithm he claimed to have invented. His discourse was confused, rambling, contradictory, aggressive and at times very insulting. I tolerated this in order to get to the bottom of his claims. Eventually I concluded that there were no new practical ideas - the ideas had either been implemented before (e.g. by Steve Grossberg), or involved attempting to do non-Turing computation on a von-Neumann machine (an obvious impossibility once the work was phrased in these terms). Thomas must have realised this too as shortly afterwards he radically revised the topic of his Ph.D. . At this stage it was clear that Thomas' grasp of scientific method and mores was very weak. In addition training him to do anything that would be respected by other academic scientists would be extremely hard. In particular Thomas displayed an inability to accurately interpret written material or dialogue, and an overwhelming urge to make 2+2=5. I have never met anyone who can so reliably get hold of the wrong end of the stick. I have to say the intellectual structures he builds on his misconceptions are often very creative, but having built them he does not want to be told his assumptions are erroneous, and he will consistently ignore contrary data in order to defend them. As a result one has to tell him things somewhat obliquely and hope for the best. His unique approach is likely a result of his unusual background and could potentially be turned to advantage, but unfortunately this is likely to be a very time consuming and disruptive process. His inability to listen is clearly a major barrier. Thomas wrote a paper for the PGnet conference describing his new approach -experts in the audience told him that his work was built on wrong thinking, he claimed he knew better, and the audience (included some top UK experts) formed unfavourable opinions of both Thomas and his supervision. (they are unlikely to accept further work by Thomas, or even read it). At my next (and thus far, final) meeting with Thomas we discussed this work. I attempted to point out the points where his argument was flawed in some detail (more than could be achieved at me conference by my colleagues). The meeting however did not help - Thomas had one (unreviewed) article written by sales staff for an equipment vendor that apparently supported his view, and justified in his mind the rejection of advice from any other source. Quoting reviewed papers, standards and expert consensus apparently counted for nothing other than proving you knew less than Thomas, who had found the one true source. My conclusion is that Thomas is a highly creative (but poorly socialised) individual, who has no chance whatsoever of learning and and adhering to the objective standards expected of a scientist He would be best advised to follow an alternative career path - perhaps creative arts would suit him well.”
“The Defendant claims that during my tenure at SBU that I ‘annoyed’ or ‘insulted’ many of the members of staff or external experts I came into contact with and that this generally put is the reason I was ultimately excluded. While this is not a defence against the specific instances of alleged breach of contract set out in this claim, the Defendant seeks to set out that while it accepts that there may have been minor irregularities that on the whole the university was justified in seeking to ‘exclude’ me. To test this defence it is therefore necessary to have regard to the details relevant to this general allegation. “Furthermore, once the Defendant took the decision to terminate my employment and to seek to ‘exclude’ me from the university, it took considerable effort to present this case as if the university was acting on various complaints that had been made against me. As a result a significant amount of the Defendant’s defence is composed of a list of various complaints made about me while at the same time seeking to deny that I had any significant role or responsibilities. The Defendant suggests that the only member of staff or research student with which there were any significant difficulties was the Claimant. The Defendant therefore wishes to present a general view that is the polar opposite of the one presented by the Claimant; that it was the Claimant who through his actions caused problems and whose unreasonable and disproportionate behaviour caused complaints to be made about him. It is important to note that it is the Claimant who has throughout this case raised various complaints or grievances, which he sought to have properly investigated. All of the Defendant’s allegations post-date a decision made by the Defendant to ‘get rid of him’ and are in effect self-generated. It is also important to note that many of these allegations may be considered minor matters which under normal circumstances would not be worthy of note. Indeed most of the allegations were dismissed by the Defendant’s own internal investigation. Despite its own investigator having dismissed the allegations as unsubstantiated the Defendant continues to rely on many of them in its Defence. As a result if one does not wish to dismiss the Defence outright, it is important to have regard to the day to day events that the Defence refers to and the individuals involved.”
“Workplace Harassment on M. Sc. Prep. Introduction to Programming Unit”
“On 27.11.2000 you [i.e. Dr Protheroe] sent me the following email: ‘If you [i.e. the Claimant] are unwilling to do this then please say so immediately - you need not attend any further classes and another member of staff will teach the remainder of the unit.’ I [i.e. the Claimant] must insist that we pay close attention to the word “attend”
“Dr. Pervez was technically ‘head’ of the Telecoms group and despite having been at the university for only a few years held a position equivalent to Dr. Protheroe. The Telecoms group was classed as a ‘research group’ by the university, which would later be upgraded to a ‘research centre’. In fact this was a shell structure. There was in fact actual no research laboratory, no actual director of a research programme, no genuine research funding and in fact no organized research activity of any kind. There was at the time (prior to my arrival) a single senior lecturer who generally had one or 2 research students, but he worked very much on his own. His output would be mostly review papers and he was unable to carry out actual research (at the time) because he had no funding and no research laboratory. In fact he had similar problems using the teaching laboratory that I initially had. I had intimate knowledge of this because I would at times share the office with one of his research students who would confide in me in respect of the problems they faced. Although it was not actually ‘research funding’, for statistical purposes the university would count the Ph.D. studentships for the research students (that is, the funding for their fees and maintenance grant) as research funding. Prior to the dispute I dealt with Dr. Pervez only in respect of employment issues. As I was an academic employee for most of this period the relationship I had with Dr. Pervez was as employee rather than as a research student.”
“He was reputed to have a degree from Oxford University and to be a member of the British ‘upper class’. By reputation he appeared to be very similar in nature to Dr. Pervez, someone of modest academic ability who is able to effectively employ the ability of others. His modus-operandi being to use the university resources to find and work with others who were gifted researchers and attach himself to them.”
“I had at this stage sent a variety of material that would be used to draw up the transfer report. I asked Prof. Alford and Dr Pervez to provide the detailed and relevant advice on the content I had provided; source material and research methods. Essentially a review of the work I had up until that point completed. Although it was plainly their duty as supervisors, they were extremely reluctant to agree to do this. While I had not agreed to any supervision, they were insisting that they were supervising my research studies, and I felt that a detailed review drawn up by them would help me decide to what capacity from an academic point of view they were suited to supervise the research I was working on. It would also be helpful for the school’s research degrees committee to decide the matter. In the end they agreed to do this, but rather than a detailed review they simply drafted a 1 or 2 p. summary of my research work.”
“AP [Dr Pervez]: Can I suggest something.... The University regulations very clearly states that a Ph.D. student at this stage need not be asking supervisor to hold this kind of advice. Ph.D. student can write his transfer report and submit under that, it is very clearly written. So I see no reason why we should be holding Thomas' hand at this stage after 2 years. I am really feeling, you know, really upset. TB: It is not our total responsibility that we should be holding any persons hand after 2 years. TB: He should be capable of writing his transfer and letting you have a look, letting me have a look, and whoever else and submit it if he feels that way. NA[ Prof. Alford]: Yeah. Ok. That would save you ... he can take on board the comments or not. And that is true. AP: Exactly. It does not matter. It doesn't matter whatsoever. Because this is the regulation. We are doing this ... I don't know what we are doing. The point is ... TB: You asked ... you asked for this yourself. This is why we are here. You asked to go over this. AP: You write a transfer report, a complete transfer report, and present it to us. And we will comment. I mean this is baby stuff, over here. But, who is serious. After 2 years? TB: You asked ... this is what you asked to go through.”
“As for redefinition [of ‘learning’] - despite your denial you are attempting a redefinition - what other explanation is possible for the fact that you dismiss a lot of things widely accepted as learning (remember Hebbs was a psychologist, and so was Skinner) as not being learning. You have in no way justified this redefinition, nor have you given any indication of what you want to do other than attempt to justify your redefinition by reference to a couple of infeasible problems. If you have something more substantive I recommend you write it down so I can see it. In particular if there is a definition of what one might call “Bangert learning” you should state it (preferably accurately) together with any statements required to make it unambiguous. Actually on the evidence available to me I am not confident that “Bangert learning” is novel - on the evidence of these mails there are some clear lacunae in your background reading, but I cannot advise properly unless you tell me what it is (rather than what it is not). “Assuming that it is novel (my working hypothesis so far), you still need (to obtain your Ph.D.) to focus on an application that can be built and demonstrated within three years rather than the infeasible problems you have discussed so far. Only AFTER you have demonstrated the universality of “Bangert learning” (a research programme at least 10 years long I suspect) will you be able to claim that other things are not learning without your papers being immediately rejected (remember the referees will be from the current machine learning community.) “Ian.”
“I believe I probably remarked to Dr. Pervez in the Autumn of 2000, words to the effect that I did not want anything to do with him, and if he treated other people with the same attitude with which he had treated me then SBU were better off getting rid of him, since without effective supervisory input, he would not be able to complete a satisfactory Ph.D. accepted by an external examiner.”
“Initially, things seemed to go well. Having consulted with Alan Nigrin, Thomas produced a list of the equipment he needed. Unfortunately problems arose between them. I believe it was at this stage they both started complaining about each other. One of Alan’s complaints was that Thomas was effectively not collaborating and not allowing him to participate in building the Network. Thomas certainly ended up building the Network himself. It subsequently became clear to me that Thomas considered Alan to be his assistant and felt Alan should follow his instructions. This was not the case as he had no authority over Alan.”
“I like to think I started with a very positive attitude to the Claimant and his work. He was the first Ph.D. student I had been the primary supervisor for and I was looking forward to the experience. In February 2001, when I took over as the Claimant’s primary supervisor, I had a meeting with him. At this meeting it became apparent the only written work he had produced was his 10 Month Report. When I asked him about his progress since then, he claimed he had done a great deal of work but was very vague about the detail. I asked him to provide me with a written update on his work since the 10 Month Report. He said he would do this. He did not claim at that stage that he had been unable to make progress for any reason. He was clear that he had made progress. I understand the Claimant now says that he could not make progress due to: (1) The time he had needed to spend setting up the Network; (2) disruption/sabotage by the technicians; and (3) his teaching commitments. I am certain that at that stage he did not raise any of these issues. He was clear he had made good progress. Additionally I am confident both he and I were clear that the setting up of the Network was not in itself part of his research. It was merely something he was going to use to demonstrate his research theories. Building the Network was not supposed to be a major piece of work.” [Emphasis added.]
“instruction to dismantle network.”
“I have not seen a transcript of the recording I assume The Claimant must have made of the meeting on26th September 2001 .”
“Prof. Bridge has requested that I write to you regarding the tone of the meeting which took place between Thomas Bangert, Dr Pervez and myself on Wednesday 26th of September 2001. As you are probably aware, Dr Pervez, Dr Xiao and myself are supervising Thomas Bangert’s Ph.D. Dr Xiao is no longer present at the meetings, Mr Bangert having requested that he cease attending. We have had several meetings with Mr Bangert in which we have tried to focus on his requirements for the Ph.D. completion. To this end we have asked Thomas to concentrate on the M. Phil. transfer report. His response was to say that his 10 month report would be the basis. Therefore, I agreed as did Dr Xiao and Dr Pervez, to review the 10 month report as well as other information in the form of two preprints and a presentation on the web. At the meeting on 26 September, Mr Bangert's response [to] our comments to say that they were pedestrian, and in Dr Pervez's case he completely dismissed the comments in a manner which I felt was both rude and abusive. The meeting confirmed my view that Mr Bangert does not seem able to focus on bringing the Ph.D. to completion. He will not reason with his supervisors at all and his approach is always highly confrontational. He has refused to sign the SBU change of supervisor form (after Dr Peng's departure) as he feels that the supervisory team is not capable of supervising his work. This is not the case. There appears to be no progress beyond the 10 month report. Finally, when I was asked to become a member of the supervisory team, I accepted believing that my experience as a Ph.D. supervisor and as a Ph.D. examiner would be of help. I am now convinced that Mr Bangert is not capable of receiving criticism about his work and is unwilling to take steps to make progress. I can see no evidence of work on the Ph.D. since his 10 month report, despite the fact that the supervisory team has requested evidence that progress towards the transfer report be presented.”
“Q. If you had a copy of these e-mails would you have provided a copy to me?”
“Q. When you say ‘I do not think I had read the document from Brian Bridge at C 242ff at that point’ do you now think the Claimant was right not to want to do the transfer report? A. No. Q. After the Brian Bridge report did you continue to press? A. I cannot recall when I read the Brian Bridge document. I accept I did continue to pursue you for the transfer report. Q. P. 246 paragraph 18: suggests that I am already out with an M. Phil. at best? A. No. Look at p. 247: that refers to formal meetings -- we were still trying to get you through to the Ph.D. this demonstrates that we were still trying to get through to the transfer report, and 222: we are trying our level best to help you, to have resources for you, to try to find a way through for you.”
“A. I would have been perfectly happy and qualified to be his second supervisor. I do not agree that the Claimant had objections to me on technical grounds – the objection was only after the second meeting began and then because of personal reasons. There was no objection at the first meeting. The objection came after the first meeting. Personal reasons arose after the first meeting. .... I did not agree with his attitude at the first meeting, and that, I believe, was when he fell out with me. In the first meeting I expressed my disagreement with his attitude. He only said that was a reason for not wanting me as a supervisor during the second meeting.”
'who do I think I am'? PX: You are not a formal member of staff. You don't have right to say who can be the chair and who cannot be the chair. You don't have the right to say what the meeting agenda should be and what the agenda shouldn't be. Its the Chair's decision, and it is the Chair's decision who should come to the meeting and who shouldn't come to the meeting. TB: Unfortunately, you don't address the point here. That is, the University cannot force anyone to supervise. The University needs my agreement. And I do not give my agreement, I make that clear here. Even M. Sc. project students have the right to say that '
“My decision is to dismiss your complaint. Mr Nigrin repudiates all the allegations that you have made and gives a very different version of events including some serious counter allegations. There is no independent written evidence presented on either side, but I find Mr Nigrin's account much more realistic than yours. Dr Pervez denies collusion with Mr Nigrin and gives a very different version of events to yours. There is no independent written evidence presented on either side but I find Dr Pervez's account much more realistic than yours. ….Your access to the teaching laboratories for research purposes has to be tempered by the teaching priorities, and you have no right to issue instructions to a technician. …. Much of the dialogue that you have written down, if true, comes in the category of minor or occasional lapses of good manners often with 'each side giving as good as it gets' such as might arise in the 'heat of the moment'. … “Much of your report contains what purports to be a word for word record of what has said on many occasions over a long period of time. The accuracy and context of the wording is open to question unless it was the result of an audio recording, which I would regard as inadmissible evidence. Mr Nigrin alleges that you use a recording device. There is no direct evidence of this but it is known that you have asked Professor Alford, in one meeting, if he minded you taking a recording. … “It is true that your Ph.D. studies are not progressing at all. But these are more straightforward reasons for this already discussed elsewhere under the current Disciplinary Investigation. But Dr Pervez has re-presented this evidence under my present investigation. …. you continuously refuse to provide your supervisory team with the information needed to monitor your progress and advise thereon; you have failed to act on any of the advice presented to you by the reviewer of your 10 monthly report; the most important item ... is that you have failed to carry out any appropriate and thorough literature record to provide evidence that your research ideas are original … there is no evidence that the material presented to date is appropriate for Ph.D. studies. All your supervisors including the external advisor present evidence that you have been unacceptably rude in all dealings that you have had with them. “Whilst there is much prior documentary evidence form many sources about your poor behaviour in dealings with many people, Mr Nigrin and Dr Pervez are staff members of long service against which [sic] there have been no previous written complaints.”
“I was at my desk & took notes on the conversation. I have reconstructed the conversation from those notes. Specific abuse is precisely as stated, other material is reconstructed (reasonably accurately) from memory...”
“Mr. Bangert came to see me and said that as I was old and due to retire, I should be training someone to be my successor. He suggested he should be that person and that I should make him Assistant Head of School. He appeared to be putting this forward as a serious suggestion and as a way of sorting out what he perceived as the School’s problems.”
“The Claimant says that all of this is a smokescreen: you had an ulterior motive to get rid of him. A. Absolutely not. It is with a very heavy heart that a head of School would report on matters such as this. It would be with a feeling of failure at not having been able to deal with the problem. I had been the head of school since 1989 and I have had to deal with many problems between staff and students; students and other students; and staff and staff. Such matters came up about once a month. One takes professional pride in being able to deal with such matters. In respect of this one I felt I would be very irresponsible to let it drag on. A higher authority had to be brought in. It would be bad for the whole school otherwise. I thought the proper course was to refer the matter to the Dean of Academic Affairs. That is the procedure under the student code of conduct.”
“I urged him repeatedly to sign the form so that other things may subsequently happen. If, for example, his supervisory team eventually agreed with him that an external person might be able to make a positive contribution to his studies, they would be in a position to make such arrangements independently of the formal supervisory arrangements. It emerged during these conversations that Mr Bangert had had no contacts of any kind with the external supervisor he was proposing. It also emerged that Mr Bangert had not pursued his studies in the past six months while he was involved in a number of disputes. I pointed out to him that it was important that he get back to his studies, not least because his stipend from the Engineering and Physical Science Research Council (“EPSRC”) was paid on the understanding of satisfactory progress in his studies.”
“I am aware that Mr Bangert has subsequently claimed that I agreed with him that his refusal to sign the change in supervisor document was reasonable. This is not true. In fact the situation was completely to the contrary. I was consistent in urging Mr Bangert to sign the form and get on with his studies. I did not offer to approach the RDC. I did not feel it appropriate to approach the RDC. The only basis upon which an approach could have been made was Mr Bangert’s wish to replace a strong supervisory team with an external person that neither Mr Bangert nor I had ever met. In my view this proposal would not meet with the approval of the RDC in any event.”
“I do remember that Prof. Alford mentioned [problems with you] a couple of times. Q. What did he say? A. That he was trying to encourage you to work on your transfer report. He did not say he had taken over your supervision. He was one of the supervising team. Q. When were you first aware of adverse things? A. I think when there was frustration with progress. It was during that summer and autumn some time. I offered my services as Senior Tutor. I became aware that attempts to get you to focus on your transfer report were not successful. .... You were signed up to a supervision arrangement with three supervisors and one external collaborator. One of the supervisors left and that left you two supervisors and one external collaborator. I did not see that as a problem. The first problem was when you were not getting your transfer report together. I do not recall discussing your case with Prof. Bridge. I had not taken the view that there were serious problems because I had not even met you. But I was particularly concerned about the progress of your research. I did not see any progress reports and did not see your ten-month report. Completing the change in supervisor form was the immediate problem so I set myself the task of getting you to sign that form. I thought you had an excellent team. I know Dr Xiao very well and thought he would make an excellent supervisor. Prof. Marshall was the external collaborator. It is the duty of the university to find supervisors: we have a responsibility for you as a student. He had signed up and it was just a question of replacing one of the original team. I had the form in respect of change in supervisor which I repeatedly put in front of you.”
“I did put the form in front of him repeatedly and asked him to sign it. I said ‘let us get on with life.’ There were only three names written on it. Q. Would it not be sensible to give it to the Claimant and let him take it away, and show it to his lawyer or student union representative? A. It was a trivial matter. You didn’t ask for that. You never mentioned any of these people. Q. Did any Ph.D. student ever express any anxiety because of a change in supervisor to you? A. No. You have a supervisory team. It happens all the time that people from the team leave to go on sabbaticals, change posts, and so on.”
“Q: who do you say were members of your supervisory team? A: my director of studies was Dr Peng; Dr Pervez; Prof. Alford. Only Prof. Alford had the requisite qualifications as a supervisor. Q: you say you had no supervision after Dr Peng left in January 2001? Why did you not then approach Dr Pervez or Prof. Alford to identify who was your director of studies? A: It did cross my mind, but I was also warned by Dr Peng that there were problems at the University -- Dr Peng had been forced out by Dr Pervez -- so I was wary. “Q: Trial bundle D618 -- that shows that you knew exactly who your supervisors were? A: no. J: look at your witness statement at p. 91 paragraph 8. A: I was confused. Q: but D618 is an interview in October 2001, your witness statement was made in 2009? A: [after a long introduction] it was not clear in my mind at the time they had different functions. There was some confusion. Q: but look at D642 where you say “I do not at present have a supervisor” is that also confusion? A: in retrospect I would say “I do not have a first supervisor. [i.e. Director of studies]” “Q: you say Dr Pervez was not involved in your supervision at all between January and May 2001? A: yes. Q: in May 2001 Prof. Alford took over as your supervisor? A: yes, up to the point when he said he wasn't, and that Dr Pervez was. J: how often had you attended on Dr Peng for supervisions? A: not that often -- perhaps once a month. J: after he left who were you attending upon for supervisions? The answer there was a crisis at the school so I was very busy teaching. I thought it would be sorted out amicably. I had meetings with Dr Pervez but they were all employment-related. Q:…. you didn't want Perry Xiao because you knew he'd be able to give an accurate assessment of your work ... A: quite the contrary.”
“At the meeting on 26.9.01, Mr. Bangert’s response to our comments were to say that they were pedestrian and in Dr. Pervez’s case he completely dismissed the comments in a manner which I felt was both rude and abusive.”
“AP: The idea is that we have been guided by Prof. Bridge that we should meet regularly and that this should show progress ... try to help you in whatever way that we can to enable you to complete your transfer. TB: That seems reasonable enough. AP... the idea was that we could all look at what stage you are at, because you are in year 3 now and we should be very seriously thinking about the transfer report, Ph.D, to a Ph.D, that means you are in ... so the first thing is a transfer report, because if you don't have a transfer report then there is no question of a Ph.D. TB: Before we get onto that ... there are some procedural things that we need to cover first. How to run these meetings ... we need to cover that before we actually proceed.”
“By setting himself out as a supervisor on the one hand and on the other by insisting on implementing something [removal and return of the Claimant’s equipment from the university’s computer network] that he knew would result in the Claimant’s network being dismantled and as a result leading to his research work being destroyed, Perry Xiao is acting in bad faith.”
“Today I contacted Dr. Peng by phone and asked him to email explaining how he viewed the situation as regards Thomas’ Ph.D. . By phone, Dr. Peng noted the original doctorate work was intended to be a simulation study that needed only one computer and the relevant software but this was extended to include some experimental verification by using a small network. Dr. Peng never viewed the networking of more than a few computers were necessary.”
“…demanding a large number of computers for this purpose was unrealistic because this would occupy most of the resources we had in the laboratory, which should be mainly for teaching-related activity.”