“So we really do sue Cape as a last resort because these product liability claims are not as straightforward, as you’ll appreciate, as the employment claims…”
“(d) To the extent that there was knowledge that low levels of exposure to asbestos dust gave rise to a foreseeable risk of mesothelioma, knowledge to that effect was not available until the mid 1960s at the earliest. (e) To the extent that such knowledge was available, it was understood to be a consequence of exposure to crocidolite. Any risk of injury to health from the use of Asbestolux (which did not contain crocidolite at any time) in a construction industry setting was neither understood nor known at the material time and so not reasonably foreseeable.”
“ I am quite satisfied that 15 days, as I said at the outset, is a ridiculous time estimate, Ms Akram. Things will shake down before this gets anywhere near trial, particularly in respect of what the experts are going to be arguing about. I am not satisfied that three days is going to be needed for lay witness evidence. The quantum side of this case is the least important and he least difficult, and I rather suspect that quantum subject to liability will end up being pretty near admitted by the time it gets to trial. In my experience, that is what happens in these cases. I do not think that a total of six days, sorry, one, two, three, four, five days is needed for the experts to be cross-examined. At the end of the day, what this case is ultimately arguing about is the old chestnut about whether the parent company bears responsibility for companies further down the food chain within the group. That is what this is about; it is the same story we have heard within asbestos litigation before. I do not accept either that five days of submissions are going to be needed at the end of it to get this through to a trial. I think 15 days is quite out of order, frankly. I have been trying to work out what I think is the right time estimate allowing to do justice to this trial. I am quite satisfied that lay witness evidence can be dealt with in two days or probably less in my judgment, experts at three at the most. Submissions either side, bearing in mind that there will be lengthy, no doubt, and comprehensively written submissions. Maybe a total of three days. I do not need to build in a day for pre-reading as part of the trial, that gives me eight days and that is what I am going to allow. I am not going to allow 15 days, so the trial estimate will be eight days.”
“3. Cape Intermediate Holdings Ltd ("Cape") is a company that was involved in the manufacture and supply of asbestos. In January and February 2017, it was the defendant in a six-week trial in the Queen's Bench Division before Picken J. The trial involved two sets of proceedings, known as the "PL claims" and the "CDL claim", but only the PL claims are relevant to this appeal. In essence, these were claims brought against Cape by insurers who had written employers' liability policies for employers. The employers had paid damages to former employees who had contracted mesothelioma in the course of their employment. The employers, through their insurers, then claimed a contribution from Cape on the basis that the employees had been exposed at work to asbestos from products manufactured by Cape. It was alleged that Cape had been negligent in the production of asbestos insulation boards; that it knew of the risks of asbestos and had failed to take steps to make those risks clear; indeed, that it obscured, understated and unfairly qualified the information that it had, thus providing false and misleading reassurance to employers and others. Cape denied all this and alleged that the employers were solely responsible to their employees, that it did publish relevant warnings and advice, and that any knowledge which it had of the risks should also have been known to the employers. 4. Voluminous documentation was produced for the trial. Each set of proceedings had its own hard copy "core bundle", known as Bundle C, which contained the core documents obtained on disclosure and some documents obtained from public sources. The PL core bundle amounted to over 5,000 pages in around 17 lever arch files. In addition, there was a joint Bundle D, only available on an electronic platform, which contained all the disclosed documents in each set of proceedings... 5. After the trial had ended, but before judgment was delivered, the PL claims were settled by a consent order dated14 March 2017 and sealed on17 March 2017 . The CDL claim was also settled a month later, before judgment.”
“37…As I have said, we indicated in the course of the hearing that we were minded to grant both applications for permission to appeal. We were reminded, properly, by counsel for T & N that these are appeals from case management decisions made in the exercise of his discretion by a judge who, because of his involvement in the case over time, had an accumulated knowledge of the background and the issues which this Court would be unable to match. The judge was in the best position to reach conclusions as to the future course of the proceedings. An appellate court should respect the judge's decisions. It should not yield to the temptation to “second guess” the judge in a matter peculiarly within his province. 38..I accept, without reservation, that this Court should not interfere with case management decisions made by a judge who has applied the correct principles, and who has taken into account the matters which should be taken into account and left out of account matters which are irrelevant, unless satisfied that the decision is so plainly wrong that it must be regarded as outside the generous ambit of the discretion entrusted to the judge. It is pertinent to have in mind, in the present case, that the judge was well aware of the need for caution when considering whether to direct a trial of issues on assumed facts; and was well aware that there were dangers in the course which he decided to take. The judge appreciated that there was a risk that his decision would lead to delay and to wasted costs. If his approach to the evaluation of the risk was correct, I would not think it right to substitute my own view for the conclusion that he reached.”