"I'm not very happy about what you said to my mum, I have not said nothing like that. Please get [the Head Teacher] to come back to me"
"We are concerned ---------- how mum manipulates these children i.e. gets them to ring RB directly and speak to adults as if they were adults also. Brings children into meetings to participate when it is clearly unsuitable for them to be present. S seems either hated and reviled or included in the above activities which are patently against his best interests. S echoes inappropriately parental views i.e. "me and my mum are going to get this school closed"
"--- S said there were lots of times when his mother would threaten Mr B with informing the police about his doing with R. However he believes that his mother would use such information to blackmail Mr B."
"I want something in return"
"Which is the more likely, A or B?" does not necessarily answer the question "
" [10] Before turning to the provisions of theChildren Act 1989 I should make an introductory observation. Courts and tribunals constantly have to decide whether an alleged event occurred. The general rule is that if the likelihood that a past event occurred is proved to the requisite standard the law regards that event as definitely having happened. That passage continues: 400. "
"The starting point here is that courts act on evidence. They reach their decision on the basis of the evidence before them. When considering whether an applicant for a care order has shown that the child is suffering harm or is likely to do so, the court will have regard to the undisputed evidence. The judge will attach to that evidence such weight or importance as he considers appropriate. Likewise with regard to disputed evidence which the judge accepts as reliable. None of that is controversial. But the rejection of a disputed allegation as not proven on the balance of probability leaves scope for the possibility that the non-proven allegation may be true after all. There remains room for the judge to have doubts and suspicions on that score. This is the area of controversy. In my view these unresolved judicial doubts and suspicions can no more form the basis of a conclusion that the second threshold condition in s 31(2)(a) has been established than they can form the basis of a conclusion that the first has been established. ------------ "
"The context is the "uncertain perpetrator" type of case, where a child suffers physical harm at the hands of his parents, but the court is unable to identify which parent was the perpetrator or, indeed, whether both were perpetrators. The threshold criteria are met. The court so decides at a preliminary "fact finding" hearing, and the case then proceeds to the "welfare" stage and a "disposal" hearing. In one of the appeals before your Lordships' House, Thorpe LJ expressed himself to the effect that at the disposal hearing in such a case the judge cannot disregard the risk the mother presents as a primary carer for the child in question. In the other appeal, Ward LJ said the case should proceed on the basis that the child was not harmed by the mother and that there is no risk of the child suffering physical harm from her. "
" [11] But the general rule does not always apply. Questions of proof of a past event arise in widely varying contexts. Sometimes the law limits the matters the decision-maker may take into account. When this occurs the reason is legal policy, not the requirements of logic. ------------ [12] The same broad principle is applicable when courts or tribunals peer into the future and assess the likelihood that a particular event will occur. This is an inherently imprecise exercise, so far as human conduct is concerned. In theory, it is a different exercise from deciding whether somebody did or did not do something in the past. Whether or not an alleged event occurred in the past raises a question of proof. In truth, the event either happened or not. That is not so with a future forecast. The future has not happened, and future human conduct is never certain. But in practice, the past is often as uncertain as the future. The judge cannot know for certain what happened and can only assess the degree of likelihood that something happened. The same is true of the future. The decision maker has to assess the degree of likelihood that an inherently uncertain event will occur. The degree of likelihood - beyond reasonable doubt, more probable than not, real possibility and so on - required in any particular legal contexts raises a question of legal policy. [13] Here again, the policy decision on the requisite degree of likelihood is a separate question from the policy decision on the matters the court or tribunal may take into account. As to the latter, the matters a decision-maker may take into account, are normally bounded only by the need for them to be relevant, that is, they must be such that, to greater or lesser extent, they will assist the decision-maker in reaching a rational conclusion. The context may, indeed, require that this principle should apply in its full width: see, in the context of asylum cases and the difficulties of proof, which beset asylum seekers, Karanakaran v Secretary of State for the Home Department[2000] 3 All ER 449 , especially Brooke LJ at 458-470 and Sedley LJ at 477-479. The legal context may permit, or require, the decision maker to take into account any real possibility that a past event occurred, or even a mere possibility. Rationality does not require that only past events established on a balance of probabilities can be taken into account. Or the context may require otherwise. The range of matters, the decision maker may take into account when carrying out this exercise depends upon the context. This, regain is a question of legal policy, not logic. "
" [16] ---- This is a comparatively low level of risk. By a majority the House held that, for the purpose of satisfying this threshold level of risk in cases (such as alleged sexual abuse) in which there is a dispute over whether the child has indeed suffered past harm, the court may have regard only to harm proved to the requisite standard to have happened. Otherwise the purpose for which the threshold criteria were prescribed by Parliament could be defeated in a case where the only evidence that the child was likely to suffer harm in the future was an unproved allegation that he had suffered harm in the past. It would be extraordinary if, in respect of the selfsame non proven allegations, the selfsame insufficient evidence could nonetheless be regarded as a sufficient factual basis for satisfying the court there is a real possibility of harm in the future: see Re H(Minors)(Sexual Abuse: Standard of Proof) at 591 and 100 respectively. [17] This would not be an acceptable interpretation of s. 31(2). This suggests that, given the purpose of the threshold criteria, both limbs of the "significant harm" condition called for proof of fact. Like the inference that the child is already suffering harm, the inference that the child is likely to suffer significant harm, must be founded on one or more proved facts, as distinct from unproved allegations. Therein lies the protection Parliament intends the threshold criteria shall provide against arbitrary intervention by public authorities. This is the principal rationale for what might otherwise seem an unduly rigid approach. [18] The same considerations do not apply throughout the whole of theChildren Act 1989 . The particular reason why the threshold conditions require proof of facts is not germane in every instance, where a decision has to be made regarding the existence or extent of future harm to a child. In the case of each statutory provision it is necessary to consider the language and purpose of the provision to see whether, for reasons of legal policy, any limitation should be placed on the matters a decision maker may take into account when assessing the risk in question. ---------------------- "
"The welfare stage[23] Crossing the threshold is not a reason for making a care order. When the threshold criteria are met the court proceeds to the welfare stage. The court must decide whether it is in the best interests of the child to make a care order as asked by the local authority. As with 'private law' orders made under section 8 of the Act, so with care and supervision orders made under section 31(1), the paramount consideration in making this decision is the child's welfare: section 1(1) and (4). This involves looking at the past and also looking into the future. In considering which course is in the child's best interests, the court will have regard to all the circumstances of the case. [24] This has long been axiomatic in this area of the law. The matters the court may take into account are bounded only by the need for them to be relevant, that is, they must be such that, to a greater or lesser extent, they will assist the court in deciding which course is in the child's best interests. I can see no reason of legal policy why, in principle, any other limitation should be placed on the matters the judge may take into account when making this decision. (my emphasis) If authority is needed for this conclusion I need refer only to the wide, all embracing language of Lord MacDermott in J v C[1970] AC 668 , 710-711.Section 1 of the Guardianship of Infants Act 1925 required the court, in proceedings where the upbringing of an infant was in question, to regard the welfare of the infant 'as the first and paramount consideration'. Regarding these words, Lord MacDermott said: "