"It is denied, in so far as it is alleged, that the governing law is English law or BVI law. If and if so far as the Transfers were void or voidable ... the relevant claim would be: "36.2.2.1. Governed by Swiss law being the law governing the location of the receipt of the sums. The Claimants ... and Defendants aver that the sums were received in their accounts ... in Switzerland. Further, as a matter of Swiss law and/or for the reasons pleaded in paragraph 36.3 below, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the proprietary relief sought. "36.2.2.2. Alternatively, governed by Dubai and/or UAE law being the location of Mr Poddar and/or Mr Das who gave instructions on behalf of DIL which resulted in the transfer. Further, as a matter of Swiss law [I suspect that is an error and should say 'Dubai or UAE law'] and/or for the reasons pleaded in 36.3 below, it is denied that DIL is entitled to the proprietary relief sought."
"Alternatively, if and in so far as the governing law is English or BVI law, the Defendants deny that there was any legal basis for the Claimant's claim ..."
"We note from your skeleton argument that your clients agree the directions in the Claimant's draft order in relation to expert evidence."
"In order for your clients to be granted permission to rely on expert evidence of foreign law, they will need to confirm on what foreign law they intend to adduce such evidence."
"We confirm that our clients intend to adduce evidence of Swiss and UAE law."
"I am not persuaded at the moment that your pleading ... raises any real issue to Swiss law or Dubai law that I can sensibly give an expert direction about."
"Yes, but those bits you refer to just say for the reasons pleaded in paragraph 36.3. 36.3 tells me that insofar as the law is English law, there is no basis for it."
“what difference does it make?”
"... unless and until there is a properly particularised case of Swiss law or Dubai law which says what the principles are and why [they differ], or which sets out principles which clearly are different to English law ... there shouldn't be any permission to have expert evidence. If you want to look at your pleadings and think about whether you are any better off under Swiss or Dubai law and can set out some principles which enable you to be better off, then you can come back and ask for permission ... and we can see what the timetable looks like. But I don't think the current pleading provides any proper basis for the court granting the permission. Normally, when one grants permission on foreign law, [parties will often] identify what the issues are and the points are addressed so that people know there is a dispute about [the different provisions of those governing laws]. So you will have to give thought to the extent to which your clients are really going to rely upon Swiss law and Dubai law. [At the moment, it seems] all about the facts."
"... a provision that entitles us [the defendant] or gives us a deadline by which to serve an amended defence to update precisely, provide precisely the information you are seeking. I think consequently we would also want to push out the deadline ..."
"By 4 pm on31 October 2025 , the Defendants, if so advised, are to provide to the Claimants in correspondence either (i) a draft Re-Amended Defence, which is amended solely to provide particulars of the relevant principles of Swiss and UAE law the Defendants rely upon or (ii) identify by way of voluntary particulars the relevant principles of Swiss and UAE law [they] rely upon. The covering correspondence should identify the issues of Swiss and UAE law that the Defendants proposed be addressed."
"At that point, it was ... incumbent on the claimant to specify in her statement of case any rules or provisions of Egyptian law on which she [intended] to rely [upon and they could] simply ... rely [upon] the presumption ... but [that would not] alter the ordinary rules of pleading. [The] claimant chooses not to plead a case based on any specific rules ... hoping to be allowed to do so later if it becomes expedient, the claimant takes the risk of needing to persuade the court at a future date to grant permission to amend ... there is no special dispensation ..."
"... the presumption of similarity does not itself determine any legal issue. It only ever operates unless and until evidence of foreign law is adduced. Nor does the presumption alter the legal burden of proof. Where the presumption applies, it merely places the burden of adducing [the] evidence on [the] party who wishes to displace it."