“These are extremely challenging times from an insurance perspective within the recycling industry. Markets are extremely limited…. The waste industry has been viewed as an extremely high risk for many years… When you flip the coin and look at the material damage insurance, overall it could not be worse news. Research on the Internet has led me to a very useful site which mentions that there have been 59 fires at recycling centres in Great Britain in 2012 in other words over 1 fire a week on average. Essentially there are 3 possibly 4 insurance companies when it comes to material damage cover for the recycling/waste industry.”
“Please find enclosed the provisional risk requirements report which we received this morning… In the meantime, please pass the report to the insured and ensure they are aware of and understand all the requirements and ensure that they are working to complete them within the given timescales. Following underwriter’s agreement, it will be a condition precedent to the liability of insurers that all risk requirements are completed within the given timescale… It is therefore important that all requirements are addressed as a matter of urgency.”
“3 x fixed Shredders within Black Sand Building: It is necessary to protect shredders by means of an automatic Fire Suppression System. Timescale: within 30 days of survey (by 16 March 14).”
“in the light of the above can we waive the conditions imposed as frankly for an operation like this I feel they are grossly unfair.”
“We are looking for various options to comply with insurance requirements because as you well know within the industry now fires at waste sites are seen as a big risk… This email is to start a dialogue with you but I am available next Tuesday for a site visit to discuss options.”
“It is a condition precedent to the liability of Insurers that all internal shredders used with buildings are fitted with a Fireward Automatic Fire Suppression system or a fire suppression system of similar specification.”
“Have any insurers in the last five years declined to insure … cancelled … or imposed special terms?”
“… Therefore we are paving the way with the engineering policies to cover all of the plant, traders, conveyor belts, IDF, et cetera under separate engineering policies so then in relation to the material damage we will only need to consider the prospect of buildings only.”
“I can see that its brand new equipment and has fire suppression … it gives me some comfort that there is no imminent danger that the equipment will fail or burn to the ground. My feeling is that as we have already accepted this risk for a 12 month period and the equipment that they are adding to the schedule is not significantly different to that they already operate, we are morally bound to accept this additional equipment up to renewal date.”
“I can see from the website that this is probably a pretty clean business of its type and in another world we might consider renewal, but ultimately this is a Property risk and the cleanliness/loss experience is not a consideration for us and as with everything in this trade, if they haven’t had a claim yet, it is just waiting to happen.”
“Given the width of the general principle of the utmost good faith, there can be no justification for confining material circumstances to those which are directly relevant to the assessment of the risk.”
“Q. So, you explained that there was a change in strategy to not write new waste risks because they were not making money because of fires. Was a different approach adopted to: renewals of existing business? A. We do not like kicking business out, to be honest. If we have had business a long time, we will rather have a look at it first and give it every opportunity before we decide what we are going to do with it.… Some we offered renewals terms on that they did not find acceptable. There were a handful that we just did not renew, because we looked at them and just could not find a way of underwriting it sensibly. Q. Why do you not like kicking business out? A. Because there is a certain amount of loyalty to clients and it is not, I would say it is not a very Zurich thing to do. Actually refusing somebody insurance is not something I particularly want to do, because there are implications to that. So I would rather find a way of underwriting it, if we can.”
“In evaluating the underwriters' evidence it is important to keep firmly in mind that all their evidence is necessarily hypothetical and that hypothetical evidence by its very nature lends itself to exaggeration and embellishment in the interests of the party on whose behalf it is given. It is very easy for an underwriter to convince himself that he would have declined a risk or imposed special terms if given certain information. For this reason, such evidence has to be rigorously tested by reference to logical selfconsistency, and to such independent evidence as may be available.”
“I think whenever you uncover facts that you are not told, that you did not know about at the time you underwrote the risk, it is always going to be speculation as to what you would have done had you been told about those facts at the time.”
“always referred various queries to Mr Penny”
“the risk being underwritten was effectively transformed into one which was predominantly fixed plant, and so would be more appropriately covered by a property policy”
“We could have turned round and said, no, place that with a property insurer. You are going to have to do that from December anyway.”