“earned wage access service to employers which is a financial service to enable employees access a percentage of their accrued wages before the end of the current payroll in return for a fee”
“[SIA] would place money into a holding account that would be used to advance wages to staff. During the payroll period, staff would ask for, and [the Company] would provide, salary advances from that account. At the end of the payroll period, the relevant employer would pay the staff wages in their entirety into this same account. [The Company] would deduct its advances and send the remainder to the employees. From those deductions, [the Company] would then hand those advanced funds back to the [SIA] and ask them to fund the next payroll run. This provided a regular cash cycle of funds back to [SIA].”
“Written notice delivered to the Senior Creditor from the Junior Creditor of the Junior Creditor’s intention to demand payment from the Borrower of the Junior Debt such written notice not to expire before a minimum period of 45 days prior to12 April 2023 . For the avoidance of doubt no demand of the Junior Debt shall be made by Junior Creditor until on or after12 April 2023 .”
“Until the Senior Discharge Date or unless any repayment of the Junior Debt is permitted in accordance with clause 5.1 the Borrower covenants with a Senior Creditor that they shall not, without prior written consent of the Senior Creditor: 4.1.1 pay, prepay or repay, or make any distribution in respect of t, or purchase or acquire, any of the Junior Debt in cash or in kind; 4.1.2 discharge any of the Junior Debt by set-off or any right of combination of accounts…”
“If at any time before the Senior Discharge Date any person makes any payment or distribution in cash or in kind in respect of the Junior Debt any person makes any payment or distribution in cash or in kind in respect of the purchase or other acquisition of the Junior Debt or any of the Junior Debt is discharged by set off the Junior Creditor will hold any such payment or distribution or an amount equal to the amount discharged by any such set off on trust for the Senior Creditor and pay and distribute it as soon as possible to the Senior Creditor for application in or towards payment and/or discharge of the Senior Debt.”
“The date when either: a) the Junior Lender or its successors in title, either directly or indirectly, request or demand the repayment of any monies owed from the Borrower, or in any way oblige the Borrower to make any payment or repayment, howsoever arising; or b) the Borrower, without the written consent of the Lender, makes any payment to the Junior Lender.”
“whether they had been successful or not was a moot point”
“Leanne and Cal noted to me about this DoP and, well, I am not up to date on all the information but I have been asked to note that you have limited PG’s with us, but if you accept to remove the limit then we can just sign the DoP as is. If you agree then I don’t have to do anything, Leanne will issue updated PG’s and do the DoP and all is done. If you don’t agree then I have to work out what the issue is and share my thoughts to they and you and … so ideally agree …? But I accept you may not wish to? Thoughts?”
“Well, this is a bit left field. Can I ask how the two are related? I don’t mean that to sound rude, I’m sure there is a reasonable explanation/requirement. Just wasn’t expecting it. I haven’t spoken to Ron but I know he would be against it as it just puts too much of his life at risk, which is fair. I’m a bit more blasé, primarily because I’m sure we have an agreement now with Sonovate and therefore, your facility will not be required by the time this second debt becomes payable etc...”
“I must admit I can’t answer the question…but I was asked to ask. So, well, I asked!”
“We are being asked to weaken our security by allowing a payment to be made out of the company while debt is still outstanding to us, on the proviso that the directors (ie you two) assure us that it won’t damage the company’s ability to repay our debt. By putting the directors jointly and severally responsible for covering the entirety of our debt in the event that in fact the company can’t repay us post making the payment to MC, we can have more confidence that the directors are very certain that said damage won’t occur (as they take on the risk themselves in that event),which enables us to allow the requested changes to the deed of priority…I note also from the below that you don’t expect to have any debt with us at the point the repayment to MC is going to be requested in any case, which means that the increase in the PGs is moot and thus I can see even less reason why it would be an issue.”
“The primary security over your debt is the salary advance book. This is ringfenced in terms of the cash flow such that we do not use your cash for anything other than providing advances and then once the salary is received, this is repaid back. In order for the risk of your working capital facility to increase, we would need to divert salary repayments away from your debt prior to repaying you. This would be in breach of our agreement with you. I point this to highlight that there won’t be a increased risk as the only way we can repay this debt is through free cash generated from profits or equity investment…The reason I say this is because we cannot increase our PG’s… PG is really there to ensure Ron and I stick around and put the work in to ensuring we get salaries repaid. Eg, Suez goes bust and misses a payroll run we then need to negotiate with Administrators and reclaim from government schemes in order to ensure this money comes in… The DoP gives you the ability to stop the repayment if you deem it risking your own debt. In practical terms, we would have to show to you that the salary advances plus fees due were higher than the debt owed whilst at the same time showing we had free cash over and above our cash flow needs in order for you to approve the payment. I would have thought this was sufficient security for you…Hopefully the above makes sense and you guys are more comfortable moving forward without increased PG’s and the right to stop repayment unless you are happy it doesn’t cause financial stress to the business.”
“That’s fair enough. I’ll put my hand up.”
“Thanks for this. My one comment is that the guarantee should only commence once the second charge debt repayment commences (or one of the other events that requires your permission?) The Logic of the PG is that I will not permit the repayment of the Junior Debt unless I am absolutely sure it won’t impact your Senior Debt and our ability to repay that. Between now and the event there is no change in the risk profile from what it currently is and therefore the current PG’s are adequate.”
“. . . I think that is the intent, yes; your PG can remain limited while the situation re: junior debt repayment remains as it is. I will double check with the others that they are happy with that. Others, are you happyt (sic)”
“will have to come up with a way to implement that but its fine.”
“No representations, either verbal or written, were ever given to the Respondent by me suggesting that Guarantee 2 was only for the purpose of repaying the Junior Debt and would not be called upon. The intention was always clear that the trigger events of Guarantee 2 were aligned to the Effective Date (as above) and if a trigger event occurred, we would call for repayment. ”
“Further to the below, please find attached the execution copy PG for your signature and witnessing please. Once signed, please date the document and scan a copy back to us.”
“I cannot see in this document where this only kicks in once the Junior Debt is paid. I’ve only scanned it so perhaps I’m blind. Can you point it out to me. Maybe it needs to be added in?”
“This is under the Effective Date definition – should already deal with your concerns but please shout if not.”
“Yes, one concern. My guarantee should only kick in if we actually pay it. Them making the demand should not trigger it. The point is if I agree to it being paid I am guaranteeing to you guys [the Company] can afford it. If they make the demand and [the Company] can’t afford it, I shouldn’t then be automatically on the hook with you guys. Can you change the wording on the effective date and then I am happy to sign it.”
“Henry may or may not ask for the cash back in the future If he doesn’t then all is moot and your PG stays limited at 25k. If he does then he has to wait till a certain date before he can ask. My memory is that it is 3 months before the date it would then be due. So assuming he asks (he aka the administrator will I am sure), My Wages aka Elva will either consider it will be in a position to pay or not. If it (you therefore etc) considers it is / will be in a position to pay, then you confirm this to us, we leave our existing stuff working as it is, you then pay him; sorted, but your PG grows etc. If it considers it isn’t in a position to pay come due day then you will either ask to borrow it from us or not as you think is apt. If we are asked we may or may not lend; if we lend, then we leave our other existing stuff as it is, we lend this extra cash, you then pay him, sorted, but your PG grows etc. If you feel it isn’t sensible to borrow to repay him or we decline to lend if asked, then Schneider gets repaid at the end of that month, doesn’t relend, the business folds, you owe us nothing, doesn’t matter what lever the PG is at. Have I gotten that all right, in English at least? If yes, then does not LM’s drafting do this? She is rather reluctant to do more drafting and iterations etc and asked me to make you say “sorry, sorry, yeah, tis fine, I will sign!”
“we leave our existing stuff working as it is” appears in the context to mean that the Company would be permitted to make payment without SIA calling in its debt. Fifth, if no payment is made to MCL on the relevant date the Company would repay the outstanding loan to SIA at the end of the working month in the usual way and “the business folds”
“the effective date should be [limb 2 of the Effective Date] with or without your consent. How this is paid is kind of irrelevant.”
“I hear ya; two things really 1 – If (when) Havisham aka Henry aka MC aka an Administrator requests repayment, likely 3 months before it is due, the below wording says your PG goes up; you will then confirm if all is tickerty boo (i.e. in funds aka we do the loan if not and you say is sensible and we agree*) and a month or so later pay them back, where the PG is already increased so b) is moot as a) has happened. If however when Henry asks you do not have the funds and we don’t lend, although your PG will go up as they have requested, you will then pay us back at that month end, before cash is due to Henry. Schneider will then have no debt (assuming Ajay is resolved this month as per the master mail etc) so although you have an infinite PG, it isn’t securing anything and hence moot. I.e. the wording as is works; you are either happy to repay Henry and PG goes up or you are not; if the later albeit the PG goes up it is against zero debt so moot. Get me? 2 – I admit this structure was chatted through with Adam and you and I seem to get the fun of then moving it forward, but net net as agreed, but as time then flows forward, assuming Henry is made whole, I understand your point re it maintaining forever. As opposed to working through that now, can we not re-look at that in the future. I.e. when you feel the Henry element is behind Elva and thus you would like the PG to shrink again you can ask. If we agree then, well, that’s easy. If we decline you then either accept or put the cash back, removing the PG. Does that float?”
“…(when) … an Administrator requests repayment… a month or so later pay them back…[limb 1] has happened…[on a limb 1 event] you will then pay us back at that month end, before cash is due to [to the MCL]… Schneider will then have no debt… so although you have an infinite PG, it isn’t securing anything and hence moot. I.e. the wording as is works; you are either happy to repay Henry and PG goes up or you are not; if the later albeit the PG goes up it is against zero debt so moot. Get me?”
“Aligned with the agreements and discussions held during the telephone conversations with the Applicant.”
“For promissory estoppel to operate there must be a legal relationship giving rise to rights and duties between the parties; a promise or a representation by one party that they will not enforce against the other their strict legal rights arising out of that relationship; an intention on the part of the former party that the latter will rely on the representation; and such reliance by the latter party. Even if these requirements are satisfied, the operation of the doctrine may be excluded if it is, nevertheless, not “inequitable” for the first party to go back on their promise.”
“‘(i) A must have entered the contract after a statement of fact or law has been made on which it was reasonable to believe A was intended to rely; (ii) the statement must have been at least substantially untrue; (iii) a statement of opinion or of intention will not amount to a misrepresentation unless the person making it does not in fact hold that opinion or intention, though a statement of opinion may carry the implication that the person making it has reasonable grounds for believing what is stated is true; … (viii) the statement must have induced A to enter the contract. It need not have been the sole cause of A entering the contract but in most cases A must show that it would not have entered the contract, or would not have entered it on the same terms, “but for” the misrepresentation…”
“On the represented basis that the personal guarantee would only be relied upon by the Respondent if the Junior Debt was repaid to MCL as confirmed by the written and verbal assurances provided by the Respondent to me (including during the call with Sonny Schneider on15th July 2022 ) and on which I reasonably relied upon, I signed the personal guarantee in late September 2022.”