“Q Right. Why, given that we have your address in Ukraine, have you blanked this out on all of these documents? A No, no, no, no. The top of this, when I ordered these chandeliers if you look at them the time is a different time than today’s, different time. That was about 17/18 years ago. Q 2016 I think is the date on this document. A Is it? Q7 April 2016 or 4 July, I do not know, but 2016. A Yes. Q Miss Minai, what I want to know is why have you-- I assume it is you. Why is your address concealed from us on these documents? A I didn’t do this to hide it from you. Q Why did you do it? A I just didn’t want it to show the address of Ukraine at that time, but---- Q You say at that time. We were given these documents about two days ago. A Let me explain to you. Let me explain to you. During the last---- Q Yesterday. A --so many years I have purchased a lot of items, (inaudible), chandeliers, curtains, drapes, wallpapers, cabinets and if you see (inaudible) items and I intended to keep them all in one place in London, maybe Queen Anne's Gate and then ship them to Ukraine. This was done through the, let’s say, three or four years that I intend to do that after I found out in 2016/17 there will be a war then I stop sending. All are sitting in the boxes without are open. The curtains are not open. The chandeliers are in the boxes. (Inaudible) are in the boxes. You saw the chairs. You saw the chairs. All are wrapped and sitting in the downstairs of the Queen Anne's Gate. Q Miss Minai, I still do not understand. You provided---- A This is not a criminal offence. Q Miss Minai, can I just---- A I just did it. Q I am not saying it is a criminal offence. A I did it! I did it! Q What I am saying is that we are having a dispute in these proceedings about where your residence has been at various points in time. Yesterday you gave us these documents and you or the solicitors acting for you have chosen---- A That you said that I don’t own this, there is no proof I own this stuff. Q We are not talking about the ownership. What I am asking is why in these documents that you have provided---- A Because it shows the address of my agent and I did not want you to see the address of my agent in Paris. Q The address of your agent? A In Paris. Q Right, I see. Okay. Is it actually because---- A Because I cannot trust you any more after what you did with Fisher. Q Is the actual reason because it is an address---- A Yes, the only reason. Q --in the UK that you do not want us to see. A If you go back-- if you go back and look at the chairs unfortunately, which I didn’t touch there, look at the chairs. The name of the agent is there. End of the story.”
“Q You sometimes stay at Queen Anne's Gate to make sure that the property is secure, do you not? A No. As I explained before, because I heard recently there were squatters which they were trying to get into the property, the advice of my solicitor was that to make sure somebody will be there at least during the night and I have an agreement with friends to go there or my brother if he’s here, but remember there is no facility there. There is a small bed at this side that my niece used in 2015/16 when she was going to university and if somebody tried to say there is the most uncomfortable place to be at, as I understand, but I go there during the day, yes, I do. Q And you sometimes stay there, do you not? A During the day I go there and I use the library and there are computers there and I use the library and if somebody wants to come and see the property they can go and if the caretaker is not there, somebody is not there to open the door, I go there, but I spend my time in the library a lot. Q Okay. Could you go to … your second witness statement …: “On occasion various of my family members, including myself, have stayed overnight at the property to ensure it was secure”
“The centre of main interests shall be the place where the debtor conducts the administration of its interests on a regular basis and which is ascertainable by third parties. ….. In the case of an individual exercising an independent business or professional activity, the centre of main interests shall be presumed to be that individual’s principal place of business in the absence of proof to the contrary. … In the case of any other individual, the centre of main interests shall be presumed to be the place of the individual’s habitual residence in the absence of proof to the contrary. This presumption shall only apply if the habitual residence has not been moved from the United Kingdom to a Member State or to the United Kingdom from a Member State within the 6-month period prior to the request for the opening of insolvency proceedings.”
“the matter has to be examined at the date of the petition. Earlier or later events may be relevant, but only in so far as they may throw helpful light on the position as at that date.”
“(1) Having a place of residence is a de facto situation rather than a matter of legal right (Skjevesland para 50 and the passage from Brauch there cited). So a licensee may have a place of residence (Brauch 334). (2) A moral claim to premises may be sufficient (Skjevesland para 52). (3) The person concerned may well have to phone to make arrangements to occupy because others use the premises as well as him but this is no obstacle to a finding of having a place of residence (Skjevesland para 53). (4) It is possible to have a dwelling house without being in occupation in the relevant period (Brauch, 335) but the greater the occupation the more likely the finding; but not perhaps if the relevant property has been abandoned (Nordenfelt and Brauch, 335). (5) Living in a place with one's family as a tenant in rooms makes those rooms a dwelling house (Hecquard 74).”
“I will not attempt to give an exhaustive definition, or indeed any definition, of the term “dwelling-house” as used in this section. I only intend to say what I think is not a “dwelling-house.”
“The debtor had, no doubt, had a dwelling-house at Beckenham, and he might very easily after he went away to Paris have adopted the house again as his dwelling-house. But when it appears, as it does, that he offered all his furniture in the house for sale, and had that which was not sold packed up in such a way that it could not, without some trouble and expenditure, be placed in a position to be used, I am satisfied that he had abandoned the house as his dwelling-house before the commencement of the critical year. I am satisfied also that he did nothing during the year to adopt it again as his dwelling-house.”
“The application was made on4 July 2020 , so the three year period commenced in July 2017. Mr Su was not in the jurisdiction at all in the first 18 months of that period. The debt arose under two English court judgments of 2014- 2015, and in January 2018 the court ordered that the debtor surrender his passports and remain in the jurisdiction until he had given disclosure of his assets. The debtor came here only in January 2019, flying in from Taipei and intending to stay overnight in a hotel before flying on to Germany. However, he was detained pursuant to the 2018 order and his passports were confiscated. He nonetheless attempted to leave a few days later when he was arrested and served with a committal application. He spent the next month staying at various hotels and then for a month stayed in a serviced apartment that he rented until he was sentenced to prison for 21 months for contempt. He was released after serving half his sentence in April 2020 but was unable to leave the jurisdiction because a further court order had been made in January 2020 prohibiting him from leaving and continuing the surrender of his passports until he had given evidence regarding his assets. He therefore stayed, first, with a friend for a few weeks, and then from late April 2020 in a small flat in Maida Vale which had been leased by someone he met in prison. It was common ground that he had no right to remain in the UK nor to rent a property or work in the UK. He wished to leave the country and in December 2020 applied unsuccessfully to vary or discharge the January 2020 order.”
“I meant that they took the home that I had, a home -- Any property that you buy if it’s not-- if it is office or is home address as a home, that’s what I meant, was my res-- Is a residential, it was not office that they took. They took a residential property.”