"This trial shall henceforth be for the purposes of resolving all issues, save whether there has been ongoing infringing use of the pilot scoping tool, as that term is defined in the amended particulars of claim herein, provided that the issues of whether pure archive use as asserted in paragraph 34A of the amended particulars of claim, and the use by Mr Ian Sutherland set out in his witness statement of20th February 2013 , are infringing shall also be resolved at this trial ..."
"... a turning point in the level of service management in controlling and increasing profits of jobs. It was tied to the database of rates and service levels for each aspect of the work, which was set by each of our customers so that as soon as a job was set up, it used the correct rates, and the admin staff could see that a contract had to be made with the insured within the right number of days, the surveyor's appointment within the next number of days, and so on. The system displayed critical jobs which had not yet been done in red, so it acted as a time-management function as well. After logging on, the admin staff could already see which were the most urgent things for them to tackle that day. "
"Halifax provided no IT support for suppliers under any of these systems. The suppliers just used spreadsheets with no consistency. There was no end-to-end managing of the process once it had been given to a supplier. The process simply involved instructing the supplier by fax and awaiting an invoice. It was often commented on at the highest level that the most sophisticated piece of supplier management kit was a fax machine, and our supplier management process was referred to as 'fax and forget'. The supplier was given the job and eventually an invoice came back. It was all fragmented and unsatisfactory, with little or no cost or service level control of the supply chain."
"Once we instructed a supplier ... we could not see what was happening to the claim until we received an invoice."
"Completecare Scotland were a supplier on the Halifax network going back to 2006. CCS were one of several HBoS suppliers who had developed their own claims management system. CCS's system was one of the most sophisticated."
"I did not discuss or know anything about the contractual arrangements between Jim Shanley and the Halifax for this work, since I did not expect or need to, nor did I discuss the contractual or financial arrangements for the work to be done with Jim Monteith at any time. Jim Shanley asked me to do the work and paid me for doing it. It must have been quite obvious to Jim Monteith that I was doing the work for Jim or else for CCS, since I would not have been doing the work at all unless someone was paying me for it. I did not just walk in and sit at CCS's premises doing coding for anyone who happened to pass by, and needed something done. I have never given the Halifax a licence to use the spreadsheet. I could not have done since, as far as I was concerned, the software belonged to Jim Shanley."
"It is admitted that until9th September 2011 , the defendants had continued to use the spreadsheets as amended by Mr Muirhead, and further admitted that such use was at all times commercial use. As of12th December 2011 , the defendants have started to use new spreadsheets which were created independently of the earlier spreadsheets."
"HRS: Jim has worked hard and well to ensure the successful launch of HRS with his 13 suppliers. All of Jim's suppliers (13) who were offered contracts accepted the terms offered and signed their contracts. Jim completed training on the new scope tool with all of his suppliers prior to the launch of HRS. To date, Jim reports that all of his suppliers are finding the new scope tool to be more user-friendly than the previous versions. Only minor issues/queries have been raised by the suppliers to Jim, and Jim has easily been able to address these. Indeed, as the building services 'scope tool champion', Jim has successfully supported his colleagues in the wider HRS network in the addressing of any issues with the new scope tool since network launch."
"Jim has shown initiative in leading the development/improvement of the scope tool. We agreed that this was a critical area, as it would help drive down CPS estimating cost and thus overall claims costs to HBoS. Jim will complete improvement work in line with the overall rates review forum work by the end of June 2007."
"Dear contractor/partner, Subject to a successful IT upgrade over the weekend of 24th/25th May, Monday 26th May will see the launch of our new HBoS GI buildings scope tool and updated schedule of rates. The ability to produce an accurate, detailed and fairly priced scope of work on each and every HBoS GI job is, it goes without saying, a prerequisite to the service offering of each contracted partner on the HRS network. The new HBoS GI scope tool and updated schedule of rates will undoubtedly enhance your ability in this regard. From launch on 26th May, all HBoS GI contracted partners must use the new scope tool and updated schedule of rates for the pricing of all HBoS GI building repair works. An electronic copy of the new scope tool and updated schedule of rates are now combined in one easier to use document and, together with an instruction guide, are attached for your attention. Your Partner Manager is of course available at any time to answer your queries and to help with any ongoing training requirements you may have in the use of the new scope tool. Please feel free to give him a call at any time. For HBoS GI, the launch of the improved building's scope tool and updated schedule of rates represents an undoubted improvement to our contracted partners over our existing arrangements in respect of the processing of building claims. ..."
"JS: The reality is, Jim, my software is getting Lloyds, getting used at Lloyds Banking Group and the reality is, Jim, if I don't get this sorted out then people are ... court order and I'll ask you to stop using my software and I mean that … But I need a list of who is currently using this ... But see, all the times and creating all the scoping tools, printing buttons and all that, that's all mine. That's my software and that gets used at Lloyds Banking Group up and down the country and that must save a contractor and your suppliers at least an hour every day in work, and I've checked out the software, Jim ... And I told him exactly where the software sat. That is my software. And at the moment I'm saying you've not got permission to use that any longer. "
"Supply to the Halifax. "
"It has recently come to our client's attention that Halifax continues to use a scoping tool through its business in substantially the same form, subject to minor changes, to reflect, for example, the VAT increase at the beginning of 2011. We have advised our clients that the use of the scoping tool is an infringement of his intellectual property rights. Furthermore our client has discovered that the scoping tool is being used by other companies within, and connected to, Lloyds Banking Group, of which HBoS has since January 2009 formed part, including Lloyds TSB Bank Plc, insurance networks, suppliers and contractors. Our client has never provided or licensed the scoping tool to any of these parties, which must have received copies derived from Halifax. Halifax was licensed to use the scoping tool only internally, and only on a temporary trial basis. There was never any licence to distribute it to connecting companies, let alone third parties. Consequently this unlicensed distribution and use of the scoping tool is a further infringement of our client's intellectual property rights."
"As a preliminary point, we note that your reference to the 'scoping tool' appears to be a reference to a software package used for the planning and management of construction projects arising from buildings insurance claims, whereas your client's complaint appears to relate to use by our client of a spreadsheet in respect of which our client asserts it is the copyright owner. Having sought clarification from our client, it would appear that the software package you refer to is an end-to-end claims management system demonstrated to our clients, Jim Monteith and Karl Poulsen, in or around 2007, but not adopted in any way by our client. Whilst your client may be the owner of the copyright that subsists in the wider elements of the software package, it is not the owner of the copyright that subsists in the spreadsheet which our client is using. We are instructed that our client has not at any time used any software provided to it by your client, his associates, or business concerns."
"We note that your letter makes reference to 'source code'. We are instructed that Mr Hanson did not write any source code for the work, the only source code being the code in the Excel software develop by Microsoft, but created specifically formulae within Excel which allowed the work to perform calculations using the data that was inputted by the case handlers on the screen. Furthermore, at no time during the creation of the work or during its ongoing development by either HGISL or any external contractors used by it ... was any new source code written for the work. For the avoidance of doubt, our client wishes to confirm that at no time has any stand-alone software been used in conjunction with or developed for use with the work, and it has been in the form of a spreadsheet developed within Microsoft Excel."
"I could not just copy the Estimate Builder code into the Halifax spreadsheet. Instead I broke the Estimate Builder down into component functions and wrote new Visual Basics deliver the same functions in the new Halifax version as a stand-alone. It was an iterative process. I would add some functionality, and, with Jim Shanley's approval, e-mail the amended spreadsheet to Jim Monteith, who would come back with comments and further requirements. I also wrote user instructions on to the spreadsheet. Between September 2006 and March 2007, my timesheet shows that I spent at least 50 hours on this project. The modified spreadsheet was used as the basis for all the Halifax claims CCS worked on while I was there. From March 2007, I continued to receive requests for modifications, tweaks and corrections from Jim Monteith, and I continued to make the changes. I did not discuss this with Jim Shanley, since it was just a continuation of the work I'd already been doing. Halifax also issued updates to ourselves from time to time, which seemed to be simply amendments to rates and other minor tweaks. On some occasions I had to correct changes which had been made by someone at the Halifax. Nonetheless, the Halifax scoping spreadsheet was never as sophisticated as the CCS Estimate Builder since this was part of a much more sophisticated system. The functionality that I put into the Halifax tool is more basic, allowing the user to move around the spreadsheet, and more open to amendments, since it is less easy to control the functions of the user in respect of a portable stand-alone Excel aisle."
"Halifax agreed with the claimant's proposal and on8th September 2006 Halifax entered into a written agreement with the claimant ('the scoping tool agreement') in the following terms: "i. The claimant is the owner of CSL and all the claims control software is currently owned by him independently and used in his business. "ii This will remain on the same basis on which the claimant will create the same or similar scoping estimating tool for the Halifax. "iii It has therefore been agreed that the claimant will provide and develop a similar estimating scoping tool to that which he has already created with the CSL business. "iv The claimant and Halifax have agreed to enter into the first stage of this agreement being about a development pilot ... "v In order that the claimant creates the desired product for Halifax, they may wish to have some historical elements of their previous tool incorporated in the future development of the Halifax scoping tool to be developed by the claimants similar to the scoping tool mentioned above. "vi Therefore it has been agreed, as Halifax is in the process of terminating their historic and current scoping tool, that they therefore agree to assign complete historic and current ownership and any rights to the claimant. In return, he has agreed to use/adapt any elements requested from previous Halifax scoping tools and the claimant agrees to use and implement them if required. "vii The claimant agrees to allow direct communication between Jim Muirhead of Ultra-Soft, his developer, and his current employees to Jim Monteith and his pilot team, in order to provide direct feedback et cetera during the creation of the scoping tool pilot, but on the strict basis that Jim Muirhead cannot be asked to create any work whatsoever for the Halifax, including current, past, future employees and linked associates, without the claimant's written consent. "viii Once the pilot work and testing has been completed, the claimant agrees to licence this to the Halifax on the basis that he will invoice and prorate per licence for each charged licence which is restricted to 1 PC and 1 PC user. "ix Further costs will be agreed based on the additional savings that have been created through the introduction of the scoping tool throughout Halifax insurance and future licence fees et cetera will be charged/invoiced on current market rates at the time, which will be reviewed annually. "x The claimant agrees to provide a fair and average market discount. "xi The claimant and the Halifax agree to respect each other's confidential works and not provide them to any other parties unless either party has provided and obtained the written consent, and the same will apply to the copying of any works, et cetera. "xii It has been agreed that, during the pilot and roll-out, the master copy would remain in the claimant's office at 134 Comiston Road, Edinburgh, given that complete ownership rests with the claimant, as set out and agreed above. All parties agree and consent to ensure that written approval is received that they require to alter this agreement. "17. The pilot agreement had the following effects: i. the claimant was to be the owner of and all rights in the estimating scoping tool that was to be developed under the pilot agreement ('the pilot scoping tool'); ii. Halifax assigned to the claimant any and all rights in the Halifax tool; iii. Halifax enjoyed a licence to use the pilot scoping tool for the exclusive purposes of developing and evaluating the same during the period of the pilot scheme; iv. Halifax was obliged to keep the pilot scoping tool confidential and not disclose the same beyond the Halifax pilot team."
"Halifax agreed with the claimant's proposal, and on8th September 2006 Halifax entered into an oral agreement with the claimant ('the pilot agreement') in the following terms: "i Halifax accepted that the claimant was the owner of the copyright in Estimate Builder in the claims control system. "ii The claimant was to develop a scoping tool for Halifax similar to and based upon Estimate Builder ('the pilot scoping tool'). "iii The pilot scoping tool was to be developed for the purpose of testing and evaluation by Halifax, and Halifax was permitted to use it for these purposes. "iv At Halifax's demand, the claimant would seek to incorporate some elements of the previous Halifax scoping tool and the pilot scoping tool. "v Halifax agreed that the claimant would be the owner of the copyright in the pilot scoping tool. "vi Halifax was permitted to liaise directly with the claimant's programmer, Mr Muirhead, during the development of the pilot scoping tool. "xii Upon completion of testing and evaluation of the pilot scoping tool by Halifax, if Halifax wished to use the same, the parties would negotiate terms for such use in good faith to reflect existing market practice and Halifax's expected volume of use."
"Paragraph 16 of the amended particulars of claim is denied: (a) Mr Monteith did not say or hear any words to the effect of subparagraphs i to vii; (b) Mr Monteith had no actual or ostensible authority to contract on behalf of the second defendant in the terms set out in subparagraphs i to vii."
"48. Clearly, if C was unaware of the use by Lloyds of the scoping tool, then C's failure to object would not be relevant to ascertaining the scope of the indefinite consent. Here there would be two possible arguments why Lloyds had a consent: firstly, that the consent was given to Monteith, allowing Monteith to sub-licence his employer, provided always that the employer continued to use C's companies as contractors. "49. Secondly, that the consent extended to any company in common corporate governance with Halifax, provided again that C's companies continued to be used as contractors. However, if C knows that Lloyds is using the tool, as D submits was the case in fact, then the acquiescence of C is the best evidence of the true scope of the licence as originally granted in indefinite terms. 50. D's doubt that an analysis based on the equitable principles of acquiescence are quite right in this case, because acquiescence is all about the case where no words are spoken. Here words were spoken, and the resulting licence was indefinite and needs to be defined by reference to, amongst other things, subsequent conduct. In ascertaining that scope, the court takes note of the fact that C did not complain of a particular circumstance of which he knew. Whether this is classified as licence or acquiescence probably doesn't matter. The latter requires detriment and unconscionability, but both are present in this case in any event."
"In 2007, if I gave you a scoping tool, you could have brought it up to your laptop and you could have accessed the virtual basic code, couldn't you?"
"I have to say, at this moment in time, I don't know whether or not I could do that back then."
"I put to you that you could and that yesterday you lied about your ability in relation to virtual basic code."
"I don't necessarily agree with that. I think the question yesterday was whether I removed anything from the document that was through the macro."
"All he is asking you, this man who did you this terrific favour, is to tell the truth, and you indicate there that you will, yes?"
"I don't think I've ever been on record as saying Mr Muirhead and Mr Shanley were not heavily involved."
"The choice of words may well be sort of detracted away from the input that Mr Shanley had, but as I say there, and I will stick by that, you know, Mr Shanley and Mr Muirhead did a lot of development on that tool."
"No, no. That's how it did come across. We've established that. I'm asking you why."
"Towards the bottom you say that 'with that in mind, the defendants stated that they had not at any time used any software provided to it by Mr Shanley'."
"We are hoping this is of interest and would welcome a chance to demonstrate our service."
"Hi Jim. I confirm on behalf of Completecare Scotland Limited that I have reviewed U schedule of rates and fully accept them and confirm we will work strictly to your SLA. My team are currently learning and adapting our reports to ensure we deliver you format and system requirements. We hope you have us up and running on this coming Monday, as we have now implemented your template into our management tracking system, et cetera. Kind regards, Jim Shanley for Completecare."
"In or about the first half of February 2007, after my return from Australia, Jim Monteith and I had a meeting. In this meeting I asked about the scoping tool and he said that they do not wish to use the scoping tool, as the insurance company are going with a bidder product that incorporate all areas of their entire company. I also attended the Halifax suppliers' forum that month and saw the presentation where Karl Poulsen said that they were moving to a new claims-management system designed by someone else, and they were going down the route with them it seemed. This confirmed my understanding of their decision that it was part of their overall process/re-organisation which was discussed at the suppliers' forum. After that I thought no more about it. It seemed to me that I had made a proposal, but, as had happened with the Churchill discussions, it had not worked out and someone else's scoping tool would be used."
"Following a review of disclosure in this action, the claimant has become aware that Mr Muirhead continued providing further updated versions of the pilot scoping tool to Halifax pursuant to the pilot agreement until around February 2009."
"Q: As I understand it, Mr Muirhead, you did a large amount of work on the spreadsheets after February 2007 and continued after that date; do you recall that?"
"Jim Monteith 1:1 21/05/07 "1 HRS: Jim reports that PCC usage of HRS is 'low'. Cashing out prefers to be the preferred PCC settlement route. However, large loss PCC Tony Bowie (?) has been instructing his HRS network on larger claims. Jim further reports that Completecare are the PCC-preferred supplier of choice, and as such are picking up the most PCC constructions. Other CPs have commented on this, but the rebuttal from Jim is that Completecare are providing the benchmark service level that all suppliers in his region need to aspire to."
"Again, you know, through conversations with myself and Jim, Jim has started to intimate, you know, his input into the scoping tool. At this stage of our relationship, you know, we'd been working, you know, both at Completecare and Arngove, not necessarily at Arngove, because it's more Jamie working at Arngove. All of a sudden, the scope tool to be mentioned, the fact that all the development work that went in from, as Jim put it himself ..."
"Effect of Estoppel and Acquiescence "
"In a case where the licence is gratuitous and informal, the position is different, thus, where the work is supplied, knowing that it will be used for a particular purpose, the licence may be limited to that purpose, but where the purpose is less vague, the extent of the licence is unlikely to be confined to the immediate purposes which the parties had in mind. No doubt the test is objective. For what purposes would a reasonable person in the shoes of the licensee consider that he could use the work?"