"With reference to a great many things, it would be quite true to say that she had an interest in these New Zealand mortgages - that she had a claim on them: in a loose and general way of speaking, nobody would deny that that was a fair statement. But the moment you come to give a definite effect to the particular thing to which she becomes entitled under his will, you must use strict language, and see what it is that the person is entitled to; because upon that in this case depends the solution of the question. It is idle to use such phrases as ... that she had an 'interest' in this estate." 57. In the present context, Miss Mahoney submitted, and I agree, that the general approach of the courts has been to give the words used in section 436 a wide meaning. Miss Mahoney cited the remark of Ferris J. in In re Landau[1998] Ch 223 at page 232A, that the words of section 436 were "about as wide as they could be"