“People who combine together to keep up prices do not shout it from the house tops. They keep it quiet. They make their own arrangements in the cellar where no one can see. They will not put anything into writing, nor even into words. A nod or a wink will do.”
“Since the prohibition on participating in anti-competitive agreements and the penalties which offenders may incur are well known, it is normal for the activities which those practices and those agreements entail to take place in a clandestine fashion, for meetings to be held in secret, most frequently in a non-member country, and for the associated documentation to be reduced to a minimum. Even if the Commission discovers evidence explicitly showing unlawful contact between traders, such as the minutes of a meeting, it will normally be only fragmentary and sparse, so that it is often necessary to reconstitute certain details by deduction. In most cases, the existence of an anti-competitive practice or agreement must be inferred from a number of coincidences and indicia which, taken together, may, in the absence of another plausible explanation, constitute evidence of an infringement of the competition rules.”
“…cartels are by their nature hidden and secret; little or nothing may be committed to writing. In our view even a single item of evidence, or wholly circumstantial evidence, depending on the particular context and the particular circumstances may be sufficient to meet the required standard…”
“…of course the bookmakers are entitled to have committees and sub-committees and working groups and what have you. And the formal business transacted is no doubt entirely legitimate.”
“takes on a quite different character for the purposes of Article 81(1).”
“…I will never take this as something that I would make a business decision on.”
“In this case, the communications arise from the price announcements made to users. They constitute in themselves market behaviour which does not lessen each undertaking’s uncertainty as to the future attitude of its competitors. At the time when each undertaking engages in such behaviour, it cannot be sure of the future conduct of the others.”
“we must have a Coral person”
“At a meeting held on22nd February 2007 on the occasion of the annual meeting of the ABB (but aside from the main meeting), attended by among others representatives of Coral, Ladbrokes and William Hill, the launch by AMRAC of Turf TV was discussed including options available to attack this new venture. At least some of the representatives of Coral, Ladbrokes and William Hill taking part in this discussion indicated that withdrawing from or curtailing sponsorship of fixtures at participating racecourses was an appropriate strategy and one which they would adopt and the other representatives did not dissent or disassociate themselves from this suggestion.”
“I had also been made aware, in conversations with Fred Done, that bookmakers had decided upon a course of sponsorship withdrawal at the ABB Annual General Meeting that took place in February of this year.”
“Difficult one to approach, but you might want to give Fred Done or Wilf Walsh a gentle reminder that perhaps we should all be on the same sheet re sponsorship if you get a chance”
“Will do. Not sure they see things in quite such a joined up way tho’.”
“we represent all bookmakers, as we are your only customer”
“if Turf TV agree to supply LBOs at a price of£2,500 per LBO, he would have the four major bookmakers all signed up to Turf TV in a matter of hours”
“in a matter of hours”
“it is vitally important that any message from the Big Four demonstrates that we remain steadfast in our decision. The last thing we need is an armada of independents starting to question our resolve, signing up and swelling their subscriber numbers further.”
“Chris, in view of Coral announcement I am sure we will all reflect on our position re Turf TV and the wider implications. We are due to hold a Cat A meeting on 7th to discuss the levy. I think the Coral decision has an impact on the court case, the position of SIS, the future of the ABB and other issues…in short do you want to keep the Monday meeting or meet up earlier?”
“We believe the annual fee negotiated is much lower than the quoted headline rate of£6,500 + VAT, it is more likely to be circa£3,500 + VAT.”
“From feedback we believe we could negotiate a deal at this level...”
“He certainly displayed a great deal of dislike for Turf TV and the individuals involved in Turf TV. He was quite vocal on occasions, and a man who expressed his opinions openly.”
“Well, he - he would make comments about Turf TV. Just in general, in a meeting he may have said, “I’ve no intention of signing”, or something like that but-”
“Perhaps - perhaps he did, I am not sure.”
“Something I said yesterday at close about the Coral situation, where Mr Walsh was fairly open about his viewings (sic) of Turf TV in general. I can only recollect one occasion where he said that he was not taking the service, and I believe that that was sometime in the summer of 2007. The comment he made, and I can’t remember the words, but the implication was what had already been said by Mr Goulden. It was public knowledge, because it was in the Sunday Telegraph, I think. So I took it that what he was saying was actually just reiterating what his boss had said publicly. I emphasise that on no occasion did I have any conversation with Mr Walsh, or any other member of the BAGS board or the ABB about Ladbrokes’ strategy, their strategy, their timing, or anything to do with what their commercial intentions were.”
“As part of our continued support of SIS, Fred will be offered a seat on the SIS board and the option to buy the following shares.”
“Are you saying that if we grant Fred this option he will sign exclusively with us, this month?”
“Should Ladbrokes, William Hill, Coral or Tote decide to sign up for the RUK product then BetFred may do likewise without any penalties imposed by SIS.”
“Also, Haydock is an RUK/Turf TV track and ostensibly on the black list for all support for the foreseeable future”