“It seems to me that the insured only acquires a right to sue for the money when the liability to the injured person has been established so as to give rise to a right of indemnity. His liability to the injured person must be ascertained and determined to exist, either by judgment of the court or by award in arbitration or by agreement. Until that is done the right to an indemnity does not arise. I agree with the statement by Devlin J in West Wake Price & Co v Ching[1957] 1 WLR 45 , 49. “The assured cannot recover anything under the main indemnity clause or make any claim against the underwriters until they have been found liable and so sustained a loss”
“In these circumstances I think the right to sue for these moneys does not arise until the liability of the wrongdoer is established and the amount ascertained. How is this to be done? If there is an unascertained claim for damages in tort, it cannot be proved in the bankruptcy; nor in the liquidation of the company. But nevertheless the injured person can bring an action against the wrongdoer.”
“The case really resolves itself into this simple question: Could Potters on June 17, 1965, have successfully sued their insurers for the sum of£839 10s 3d which they were denying they were under any obligation to pay the Post Office? Stated in that way, I should have thought the question admits of only one answer. Obviously Potters could not have claimed that money from their insurers. It is quite true that if Potters in the end are shown to have been legally liable for the damage resulting from the accident to the cable, their liability in law dates from the moment when the accident occurred and the damage was suffered. But whether or not there is any legal liability and, if so, the amount due from the Potters to the Post Office can, in my view, only be finally ascertained either by agreement between Potters and the Post Office or by an action or arbitration between Potters and the Post Office.”
“In my opinion the reasoning of Lord Denning MR and Salmon LJ contained in the passages from their respective judgments in the Post Office case set out above, on the basis of which they concluded that, under a policy of insurance against liability to third parties, the insured person cannot sue for an indemnity from the insurers unless and until the existence and amount of his liability to a third party has been established by action, arbitration or agreement, is unassailably correct”
“1.1 Civil Liability The insurer will indemnify each Insured against civil liability to the extent that it arises from Private Legal Practice in connection with the Firm’s Practice, provided that a Claim in respect of such liability is first made against an insured (a) during the Period of Insurance; or (b) during or after the Period of Insurance and arising from Circumstances first notified to the Insurer during the Period of Insurance.”
“Subject as follows, where a bankrupt is discharged, the discharge releases him from all the bankruptcy debts, but has no effect – (a) on the functions (so far as they remain to be carried out) of the trustee of the estate, or (b) on the operation, for the purposes of carrying out those functions, on the provisions of this Part; and, in particular, discharge does not affect the right of any creditor of the bankrupt to prove in the bankruptcy for any debt from which the bankrupt is released.”
“Where discharge had been effective to release a debt, the creditor’s right of action is totally lost and is not revived because after discharge the creditor may utter a promise to pay”
“The winding up leaves the debts of the creditors untouched. It only effects the way in which they can be enforced. When the order is made, ordinary proceedings against the company are stayed… The creditors are confined to a collective enforcement procedure that results in pari passu distribution of the company’s assets. The winding up does not either create new substantive rights in the creditors or destroy the old ones. Their debts, if they are owing, remain debts throughout. They are discharged by the winding up only to the extent that they are paid out of dividends. But when the process of distribution is complete, there are no further assets against which they can be enforced. There is no equivalent of the discharge of a personal bankrupt which extinguishes his debt”. [emphasis added] I do not consider that Heather v Webb or Wight v Eckhardt provides support for Mr Sheldon’s proposition. Heather v Webb simply did not decide that the underlying cause of action was extinguished by the discharge: it simply held as a matter of statutory interpretation that the new proceedings based on the subsequent promise to pay was an action “in respect of” the old debt, and accordingly released by express statutory provision. Of course, Professor Fletcher is right in the sense that the creditor’s “right of action” is lost against the debtor, in the sense that he can no longer recover against the debtor, but that is not to say that the underlying cause of action is totally destroyed. In Wight v Eckhardt Lord Hoffmann was merely referring to the fact that there is no equivalent of discharge in corporate insolvency. The company can be dissolved, but if restored the company still faces the debts which it had at the date of dissolution. He was not considering whether, although released from the obligation to pay, the underlying cause of action remained. Accordingly, in my judgment, the short cut does not work. It is necessary to go further and examine in more detail the Law Society’s argument. Before doing so it is necessary to consider the decision of the Court of Appeal in Financial Services Compensation Scheme Limited v Larnell Insurances (in liquidation)[2006] QB 808 ;[2005] EWCA Civ 1408 (“Larnell”). Larnell In Larnell a group of investors claimed that their financial adviser, the defendant insolvent company, had given them negligent advice. The action was brought as a preliminary to claiming against the defendant’s insurers under the 1930 Act, in the way made necessary by the Post Office and Bradley cases. The judgments are mainly concerned with the limitation defences which were deployed with a view to striking the action out. The claimant had put in a proof of debt in the liquidation, but the liquidator had neither admitted nor rejected it (see Lloyd LJ at [6]). At [11] Lloyd LJ refers to Post Office and Bradley as deciding that establishment of liability by action, by arbitration or agreement between the insured and the third party, was a prerequisite. He then points out that agreement will not always be possible, for example where the policy prohibits it. He goes on “If proceedings are necessary, they may take one of a number of forms. The obvious instance is a claim such as the present. Because the company is in voluntary winding-up it is unnecessary to obtain consent before starting such a claim. If the winding-up were compulsory the court’s permission would be needed, and the court might regard it as more appropriate for the third party to prove for its debt. If the liquidator were to reject that proof, the third party could appeal against that rejection under rule 4.83 of theInsolvency Rules 1986 . That would lead to a judicial determination which would also be sufficient establishment of the liability of the insured. Nothing turns on the particular procedure adopted. It makes no difference whether the proceedings themselves are brought within the bankruptcy or winding-up proceedings or outside them, as is the present claim.”
“303. -(1) If a bankrupt or any of his creditors or any other person is dissatisfied by any act, omission or decision of a trustee of the bankrupt's estate, he may apply to the court; and on such an application the court may confirm, reverse or modify any act or decision of the trustee, may give him directions or may make such other order as it thinks fit.”