“Shirburn Castle is a sleeping beauty of a castle. … It retains much of the detritus of past generations and is therefore a time capsule as it stands.”
“I have very little memory of these meetings at all. We have documentation of memories here and there, and then hopefully build it up from the documentation.”
“My father and I, as you suggest, will pay half rent each. The rent at the moment is£100 a year. Ought we to increase it to£150 or£200 ?… We are also going to pay half the rates each…”
“Up until the death of grandparents, mum and dad lived on the first floor. After their death they did as they pleased obviously and they used the breakfast room, kitchen next to it… Then they used and occupied the ground floor.”
“By that time [i.e. when he moved in], in a sense, Mum and Dad had done a certain amount of swapping with the 7th Earl and his wife by moving breakfast and cooking quarters down to the ground floor. There was no suggestion that there was a need to consult the company over this.”
“if a short term tenancy could be drafted to allow Mr Robert Parker to live in the Old Vicarage prior to the demerger of the Company, without compromising the position of the Company in any way.”
“this level of rent would drive his father out of his house, which would be tantamount to killing his father and would Mr Robert Parker like to take a knife out of the nearest drawer and use it.”
“While in principle my father and I are content for the Earl and his wife to occupy part of the Castle for their joint lives or the life of the survivor, we do not agree or accept the fact that the Earl’s previous tenancy was protected by theRent Act 1977 nor that any new tenancy should gain that protection.”
“Lord Macclesfield also indicated to the shareholders that he would be interested in taking a tenancy of the whole or part of the accommodation in the Castle when the future of the Castle was discussed at a later date. It seemed clear that for the moment the shareholders wished to keep the matter open, and Mr Taylor suggested that before the shareholders came to any decision about the future of the Castle, they should seek independent advice. DWS, in an attempt to clarify that, asked if the advice would involve the desirability or otherwise of selling the Castle or letting it. Mr Taylor confirmed that that was what he had in mind.”
“Various factors that come to mind over the Castle rent (1) the company requires that the Castle expenditure be tax deductible (2) the Revenue requires a correct rent probably interpreted as a director not getting an advantage. What is a correct rent under all the circumstances! The whole Castle will not be exclusively occupied by the E of M. It has not been for some time. In addition there is a “Granny flat” – an additional source of income in the eyes of both BEC and the Revenue. The main occupier – one E of M after another has taken caretaker responsibility for that part of the Castle not occupied. The Castle rooms are used by BEC to a limited extent for AGMs and Board meetings. Each E of M has overall responsibility for problems that arise out of the house. It is not required by BEC that E of M lives in Shirburn Castle –but life would be very difficult if he did not – particularly as E of M & BEC are synonymous in some minds for some purposes. Recently the thought that BEC could obtain income from “filming rights” has become a reality. This has come about through agreement of E of M (as tenant) to accept film crews but allow BEC to collect the rental. BEC has also had the rental value of the contents which belong to members of the family who have allowed BEC to collect all. Historically E of M has paid the rateable value as rent with agreement of Grant Thornton (I think?) Out of all this lot and anything else that occurs to you has to come a “correct rent” for revenue purposes which I believe will be negotiated with an Inspector of Taxes at the end of the day. Let us just look at the effects of an extreme Inspector of Taxes’ decision on rent. An extreme low rent would solve one problem but would be unfair in terms of what I should pay for accommodation thus creating another problem. An extreme high rent would simply mean that I could not live at Shirburn Castle, would sell the contents that belong to me and move away. Not a prospect that I wish to contemplate because it would finish BEC – but the possibility exists.”
“Castle to be sorted by JP. E of M. RP.”
“Planning permission for the Old Stores has been granted, so I propose: (1) I move to Shirburn Castle – I hope1st October 1993 (2) Portobello Farm to be let to my stockman, Mark Heaton. … Should I move to Shirburn Castle and Portobello cannot be re-let at 1.10.93, I would be responsible for up to another year, giving formal notice at Michaelmas 1993. (3) Agreement and Rent for the premises in the Castle yards would be negotiated by Cluttons on the same arm’s length basis as farm rents. I would be responsible for all setting-up and changeover costs.”
“The letter that the Earl of Macclesfield sent to the Directors was discussed and in response to questions said that he would like to take up residence in various rooms in the Castle, not yet finalised. Cluttons would negotiate with the Earl of Macclesfield over a new tenancy which will have to be agreed as an arms length transaction. This should also be agreed with the Inland Revenue so that repairs can be tax deductible.”
“M’s proposal … to move into the Castle was considered. M stated that he wanted: (1) A separate lease for life occupancy of roughly the same rooms as the 7th Earl (2) Cluttons to negotiate on behalf of the Co. (3) Portobello to be let to M’s stockman (Mark Heaton) … It was agreed that M will give precise details of his requirements at the next Board meeting.”
“What part of castle – g’ma and g’pa [i.e. the 7th Earl and Countess]. Separate lease. Life occupancy. Who agrees rent and lease? Cluttons on behalf of company with M. Result to be approved by Revenue as arms length negotiation. Reason = repairs to castle.”
“It was resolved in principle that the Chairman should move to the Castle and rent the stores and paint shop for his game business, providing that this does not compromise the Company. It was agreed that the Hon Jocelyn Parker would seek an agent to act on behalf of the Company. It was resolved, in principle, that the Hon Jocelyn Parker and Robert Parker could take over from the Chairman at Portobello Farm on a similar lease to that negotiated with the Chairman.”
“It was partly because my father and I were unhappy at that suggestion that it was agreed that an independent agent should be asked to advise. Therefore, although Richard may have wanted a life interest I cannot conceive that he did not know that this was opposed by other members of the board.”
“From the discussions I had at the time with my father and my brother Robert Parker … my recollection is that the question how long Richard should stay at the castle was not of prime consideration. Of greater significance was how “buttoned up” any tenancy agreement would be.”
“this went on over two days. We went through all the possibilities of assignment, enfranchisement, we were not property lawyers, we are not land agents. Jocelyn sat there and said we can have no more long leases. It was quite clear what he said. That “not compromising the company” was a way of not having a row about the minutes.”
“I will be definite about Jocelyn Parker, because I can still see him doing it.”
“Lord Macclesfield wishes to move into the Castle and convert the Stores to a game larder by the 1st October this year. This would be before the terms of a lease or rental figures are agreed and before chattels and furniture can be removed from the let rooms in the Castle. My father and I feel that the move should take place after these terms and figures are agreed and the alterations completed. Lord Macclesfield claims that the Company will not be compromised because, in Company Law, he would have to vacate if terms were not agreed. Are there any legal reasons for which we could delay his move until all outstanding matters are settled?”
“Please let me have as agreed, a revised accurate plan and details of your proposed requirements in the Estate Yard, in order that I may proceed with this matter as soon as possible, bearing in mind your urgency. Upon receipt of the plan, services requirements and Yard/access requirements I will endeavour to have a proposal drafted by the end of this month. In the same vein, as discussed the other day at Portobello, the proposed accommodation in the Castle must also be clarified without delay. However, having also spoken with your mother, it is not realistically possible for a lease to be drafted and valued and for you to take up residence within the next month, bearing in mind the complexity of the matter. I expect to hear from you soon.”
“1. To meet with the Earl of Macclesfield and inspect Shirburn Castle and the proposed premises. 2. To consider all aspects of the proposals. 3. To submit a report to the Directors with my advice and recommendations. 4. On receipt of instructions, to consider the rental and advise on proposed rental levels, taking into consideration terms, outgoings and other salient factors.”
“You have been allowed in without a lease”
“Why 1st/3rd Nov. possession”
“Richard not to come in without lease can come and stay with me”
“3) THE PROPERTY: 1. Exclusive occupation of that part of Shirburn Castle as shown shaded blue on a plan to be prepared 2. Occupation in common with others of that part of Shirburn Castle shaded pink on the plan to be prepared 3. Exclusive occupation of that part of the grounds of Shirburn Castle as shaded green on a plan to be prepared 4. Occupation in common with others of that car park area and access shaded yellow on the plan to be prepared 4) TERM: From1 November 1993 through to31 October 1998 ”
“It was agreed to consider further the exclusive use of part of the grounds. The terms of heading were agreed as per the report of John D Wood. It was agreed that negotiations for the old stores area could go ahead immediately but that negotiations for the Castle would have to wait for the plan to be completed.”
“J.D. Woods proposal. P 5 3) iii) Garden. Further consideration. Why is it [necessary] With exception of above Board agrees Heads of Terms as per report from J.D. Wood. He could go ahead with negotiations on Stores but those for Shirburn Castle will have to wait for the plan to be completed. Other car parking spaces needed – by the church?”
“The important things were the length of the lease, which I thought was quite short, but I thought that would be negotiable, and the shorthold tenancy which was the vehicle I expected to come forward.”
“Of course by the date the Report was received I had, in practical terms, if not in strict law, burnt my boats. My stock had been sold or nearly so, my stockman made redundant, my family and possessions were ready to move.”
“…I confirm the following:- 1. That the conclusions of the report have been accepted in total by the Directors with the exception of clause 3) 3 on page 5. 2. That negotiations in connection with the apartment within Shirburn Castle should be held in abeyance pending the plans being produced by Robin Simpson 3. That I am to proceed with negotiations in respect of rentals for the Old Stores and Buildings in the Estate Yard.”
“The estate gains income from the lease of an unused building. I gain nothing. The deal is arms’ length”
“It is agreed that I give up Portobello Farm at short notice. It is agreed that Hon J Parker and Mr R Parker shall take over subject to terms. … While I have stated that I give up on 8th November, I think the arms-length problem means that I should accept responsibility till 19th November.”
“£500 to buy time & then argue about his occupation of the Castle & Stores because Richard has overthrown minute of …”
“HEADS OF TERMS REGARDING A PROPOSED SHORTHOLD TENANCY Between THE EARL OF MACCLESFIELD And THE BEECHWOOD ESTATES COMPANY In connection with PART SHIRBURN CASTLE WATLINGTON”
“This agreement to be an Assured Shorthold Tenancy for five years, a copy of the type of agreement is attached herewith”
“Re Old Stores. Mr N Hextall agreed that if the tenant were asked to leave, then there would be compensation. As an addition to his heads of terms, the Hon Jocelyn Parker will write to Mr Hextall to negotiate terms of the lease. Re Castle. Mr Hextall is adamant that£15,000 per annum is the correct rent. The Chairman disagrees. Mr Hextall then suggested that the tenant pays for any improvements required by the tenant and pay a peppercorn rent. The Chairman feels that this is a possible way forward. The Chairman aims to prepare a scheme for his requirements for the next meeting.”
“1. It is understood that the term will now be for 6 years. 2. It is understood that the rent will be£6,250 for the first three year period, term dates being as per the initial Heads of Terms. 3. I understand that it has been agreed that the Lessee will carry out certain works to the property, the costs will be recorded. I consider that such costs should be written down over the full period of the Lease to a nominal sum of£1 at the end of the period. 4. It was agreed by all parties that it was essential that the company have the ability to serve notice to terminate the agreement. I would suggest six months to be a reasonable period. 5. Should the tenancy be terminated by notice, compensation will be payable to the Lessee at the annual written down sum for the term occupied.”
“Upon the assumption that this hurdle is successfully cleared, I suggest the next move is a family meeting to discuss the Castle rent. Given refurbishment by BEC, the maximum rent that is acceptable to me is£7,500 . The arrangement whereby I spend as I see fit and pay a nominal rent is also acceptable. I agree with David that solving any problems with the Revenue created by the above, formalised by a 100% shareholder agreement, must be possible.”
“Lord Macclesfield and his heirs to occupy the Castle on as permanent a basis as possible” and the proposal that: “The Earl and his heirs be granted a life tenancy of the Castle”
“Lord Macclesfield considers that he is a service occupant of the accommodation at Shirburn Castle, being required by the Company to occupy that accommodation for the better performance of his duties and as caretaker of the property.”
“I do not think the basis of occupation was ever a question. The basis of occupation was that it should be occupied for a period of time and possession could be gained; so the basis of occupation was very clear at all times. It was [a] question of how, what legal framework that would be put into – I used the shorthold tenancy process in order to try to indicate that that was the way in which we should proceed.”
“My advice to the Estates Company can only be that a specific area should be allocated to Lord Macclesfield which can be separately serviced and occupied in isolation from the remainder of the Castle – such as the Countess’ old apartment. No other system – it seems to me – can be practicably worked – unless the Estates Company is happy to allow Lord Macclesfield to occupy on a caretaker/grace and favour basis.”
“Instructions did not seem to be forthcoming”
“Next the castle came up – Richard says hasn’t agreed terms for lease and at the same time will not agree terms as lease not possible as electrics unsafe and his life is constantly interrupted etc and therefore he should pay no rent. Lot of waffle about not being able to let it to anyone else. Sandy said if they had to pay they would move out and take “the toys”
“The Board agreed that the Earl of Macclesfield has a caretaker role which should be valued separately from an agreed rent. A service tenancy was not agreed. The Chairman’s salary should be completely separate.”
“Probably; quite likely to lose money – an operating loss or at best just break even. No account taken of capital costs or repayment of them.”
“But although the judgment is, for convenience, divided into several sections with headings which give a rough indication of the subject matter, it is important to note at the outset that the doctrine of proprietary estoppel cannot be treated as subdivided into three or four watertight compartments. Both sides are agreed on that, and in the course of the oral argument in this court it repeatedly became apparent that the quality of the relevant assurances may influence the issue of reliance, that reliance and detriment are often intertwined, and that whether there is a distinct need for a "mutual understanding" may depend on how the other elements are formulated and understood. Moreover the fundamental principle that equity is concerned to prevent unconscionable conduct permeates all the elements of the doctrine. In the end the court must look at the matter in the round.”
“Furthermore the more recent cases indicate, in my judgment, that the application of the Ramsden v. Dyson LR 1 HL 129 principle – whether you call it proprietary estoppel by acquiescence or estoppel by encouragement is really immaterial – requires a very much broader approach which is directed rather at ascertaining whether, in particular individual circumstances, it would be unconscionable for a party to deny that which, knowingly or unknowingly, he has allowed or encouraged another to assume to his detriment than to inquiring whether the circumstances can be fitted within the confines of some preconceived formula serving as a universal yardstick for every form of unconscionable behaviour.”
“It cannot be doubted that in this as in every other area of the law, the court must take a principled approach, and cannot exercise a completely unfettered discretion according to the individual judge’s notion of what is fair in any particular case.”
“there could not have been because Mum was there”
“My understanding was at that time mum was alive, so there was an area for her, there was an inviolate area for us, and the dilapidated area on the top floor, all of which had to be accommodated by some arrangement or other.”
“Well, when we moved down, when Richard came back from seeing his mother and she said “you better move to the castle”, she did not say five years, so I assumed that it was forever. I was just about 50 years old, Richard was 50 already. I would not be expecting to be moving for a five year or even a 15 year term. It never came up in conversations that Richard had that he told me. It never came up in conversation with my brother-in-law, who at that point was till friendly with us; it never came up in conversation with my husband’s nephew Timothy, who came in and had coffee with us when he became a board member. Nicholas Hextall at the time I met him never talked to me about an occupancy for a limited period. All we ever discussed was which rooms we were going to use on a full and complete – they were just ours.”
“I am meaning that he [Lord Macclesfield] decided that he should move to the castle. He did not ask me and he did not tell me whether he had discussed it with the board. All I knew is that he had had a discussion with his mother and he had decided that we should move, or they had decided that we should move. I think of myself rather as Ruth, following “Where my husband goes, so go I.”
“I do not think the basis of occupation was ever a question. The basis of occupation was that it should be occupied for a period of time and possession could be gained, so the basis of occupation was clear at all times. It was [a] question of how, what legal framework that would be put into – I used the shorthold tenancy process in order to try to indicate that that was the way in which we should proceed.”
“Mr Fetherstonhaugh did not dispute that in appropriate circumstances proprietary estoppel could arise. He submitted that, on the evidence and the findings of fact made by the judge, it did not arise in this case. I believe he is right. It is accepted that the appellants expended money and time on the premises. Thus the pertinent question to ask is – what was the expectation that the appellants were allowed or encouraged by the respondent to assume? The appellants’ answer to that question was an expectation that they would be able to occupy and trade from the premises. The Respondent says that it was an expectation that the negotiations would lead to the joint venture company occupying and trading from the premises or it would be purchased if the parties could agree terms. That in fact was the conclusion of the judge. He held that the respondents did not lead the appellants to believe that they would be granted a lease. They did however allow the appellants to expend money and time in the expectation that agreement would soon be reached on the precise terms of the joint venture or after November the premises would be purchased on terms to be agreed. There was no expectation that the appellants could remain if the negotiations for a joint venture failed. I believe you can test that conclusion by asking – what were the terms upon which the appellants believed that they were entitled to remain and manage the premises? There was no agreement. That was decided by the judge who rejected the appellants’ evidence. The answer, I believe must be “terms to be agreed”
“But in other cases well within the mainstream of proprietary estoppel, such as Inwards v. Baker[1965] 2 QB 29 and the 19th century decisions which this court applied in that case, there is nothing like a bargain as to what particular interest is to be granted, or when it is to be granted, or by what type of disposition it is to be granted. The link is provided by the bare fact of A encouraging B to spend money on A’s land.”
“There being no grant, no enforceable contract, no licence, I would analyse the minimum equity to do justice to the plaintiff as a right either to an easement or to a licence on terms to be agreed. I do not think it is necessary to go further than that. … If there is no agreement as to terms, if agreement fails to be obtained, the court can, in my judgment, and must, determine in these proceedings upon what terms the plaintiff should be put to enable him to have the benefit of the equitable right which he is held to have.”
“since the measure of expectation or belief is the maximum extent of the equity, it is incumbent on Mr William, in order to satisfy the test, not only to establish an expectation or belief that he would be granted a full agricultural tenancy, but also to show that such expectation of belief was of sufficiently concrete character to enable the court to give effect to it when fixing the rent and the rent review regime, and making provision for dilapidations, for the repairing covenant, and for other crucial terms.”
“… even if one were to assume that the first of the judge’s two findings stood intact, and that Mr William did have a firm expectation based on a clear understanding in 1989 that Mr William would continue to farm the land on the basis of an agricultural tenancy, one asks inevitably, an expectation of such a tenancy on what terms? In seeking to answer that question I think that unfortunately Mr William runs into insuperable difficulties, since, as the judge recognised in the same passage in the first part of his judgment, the matter was not discussed in any detail, whereas to my mind the detail was all important, yet so many potentially insoluble problems were left up in the air.”
“There may be uncertainties in transactions which go to the question whether unconscionable behaviour has given rise to any detriment to the party seeking to rely on such an equity. There may be uncertainties in transactions in which unconscionable behaviour may have produced such detriment but its nature and extent are so uncertain that even equity may not be able to devise an appropriate remedy for it. There are parts that sometimes even equity cannot reach; and sometimes, as here, the two aspects of uncertainty may overlap.”
“I am unable to recognise an equitable estoppel based on a representation which is so uncertain. It seems to me essential, if the respondent is to be prevented from exercising a clear legal right unless he first satisfies some condition which is to be imposed on him to meet by what is described as “the equity of the case”, that it should be possible to tell him what it is that he has to do. To fetter the respondent’s legal right by reference to some obligation which cannot be spelt out seems to me to be thoroughly inequitable.”
“It is the Claimant’s case that, once the open market terms had been established by the advice of the independent surveyor and subsequent negotiations, he had the option whether or not to accept them. The 9th Earl recognised that, if he did not (because the commercial rent so established was too high or the terms were otherwise personally unacceptable to him), he would not, as a director and shareholder of the Company, be entitled to occupy the Castle and would have to leave.”
“That would be entirely in the hands of those appointed to do the negotiations. There was nothing said at the time about that. It is quite clear that I put down a request for a separate lease for life occupancy and that was not denied at the time.”
“Although C’s expectations provide an upper limit to the relief which may be given, the court is not bound to give effect to them in the manner which C envisaged if circumstances have changed so as to make it inappropriate. Thus if C has acted to his detriment in the belief that he can live with O and the parties subsequently become estranged, the court will not give C a right to reside on the premises but will find some other means of giving effect to the equity.”
“cannot compel people who have fallen out to live peaceably together”
“whereby a director of the company or its holding company, or a person connected with a director, acquires or is to acquire a non-cash asset of the requisite value from the company … unless the arrangement is first approved by a resolution of the company in general meeting …”
“A tenancy, or lease, is an interest in land. With exceptions immaterial for present purposes, a tenancy springs from a consensual arrangement between two parties: one person grants to another the right to possession of land for a lesser term than he, the grantor, has in the land. The extent of the right thus granted and accepted depends primarily on the intention of the parties. As with other consensually-based arrangements, parties frequently proceed with an arrangement whereby one person takes possession of another’s land for payment without having agreed or directed their minds to one or more fundamental aspects of their transaction. In such cases the law, where appropriate, has to step in and fill the gaps in a way which is sensible and reasonable. The law will imply, from what was agreed and all the surrounding circumstances, the terms the parties are to be taken to have intended to apply. Thus if one party permits another to go into possession of his land on payment of a rent of so much per week or month, failing more the inference sensibly and reasonably to be drawn is that the parties intended that there should be a weekly or monthly tenancy. Likewise, if one party permits another to remain in possession after the expiration of his tenancy. But I emphasise the qualification: ‘failing more’. Frequently there will be more. Indeed, nowadays there normally will be other material surrounding circumstances. The simple situation is unlikely to arise often, not least because of the extent to which statute has intervened in landlord-tenant relationships. Where there is more than the simple situation, the inference sensibly and reasonably to be drawn will depend on a fair consideration of all the circumstances, of which the payment of rent on a periodical basis is only one, albeit a very important one. This is so, however large or small may be the amount of the payment. To this I add one observation, having in mind the facts of the present case. Where parties are negotiating the terms of a proposed lease, and the prospective tenant is let into possession or permitted to remain in possession in advance of, and in anticipation of, terms being agreed, the fact that the parties have not yet agreed terms will be a factor to be taken into account in ascertaining their intention. It will often be a weighty factor. Frequently in such cases a sum called ‘rent’ is paid at once in accordance with the terms of the proposed lease: for example, quarterly in advance. But, depending on all the circumstances, parties are not to be supposed thereby to have agreed that the prospective tenant shall be a quarterly tenant. They cannot sensibly be taken to have agreed that he shall have a periodic tenancy, with all the consequences flowing from that, at a time when they are still not agreed about the terms on which the prospective tenant shall have possession under the proposed lease, and when he has been permitted to go into possession or remain in possession merely as an interim measure in the expectation that all will be regulated and regularised in due course when terms are agreed and a formal lease granted. Of course, when one party permits another to enter or remain on his land on payment of a sum of money, and that other has no statutory entitlement to be there, almost inevitably there will be some consensual relationship between them. It may be no more than a licence determinable at any time, or a tenancy at will. But when and so long as such parties are in the throes of negotiating larger terms, caution must be exercised before inferring or imputing to the parties an intention to give to the occupant more than a very limited interest, be it licence or tenancy. Otherwise the court would be in danger of inferring or imputing from conduct, such as payment of rent and the carrying out of repairs, whose explanation lies in the parties’ expectation that they will be able to reach agreement on the larger terms, an intention to grant a lesser interest, such as a periodic tenancy, which the parties never had in contemplation at all.” (Emphasis added)
“I refer to that because it appears to me that where a question arises as to the lawful method of terminating a licence, the circumstances in which the licence came to be granted are most relevant to consider. Where a licence is granted under a contract, it may very well be that the contract will make express provision for those matters which must be observed, but what is to happen where the contract is silent in that regard? I cannot take the view that there is some cast-iron principle of law which lays down for every type of contract, whatever the circumstances and whatever the purposes for which it was entered into, some rule which is always to operate. In my opinion, the true rule is that the implications of the contract are to be determined by regard to all the relevant circumstances of the case. Thus, in the judgment of the Privy Council in Canadian Pacific Railway Co. v. The King, the following paragraph appears: "Whether any and what restrictions exist on the power of a licensor to determine a revocable licence must, their Lordships think, depend upon the circumstances of each case." That is the only proposition of general application which I find it possible to extract from that authority; and although the case is not binding on this court, the law there is, in my opinion, laid down with complete accuracy. … The notice given by each letter operates as a clear determination of the licence at the expiration of one week. It conveys to the mind of the recipient as clearly as anything can notice that the licence is determined. It goes on, however, to indicate that the recipient of the letter, together with his possessions, is to be removed from the premises within one week. So far as the letter gives that instruction, it was, in my opinion, quite inoperative. The true view is that where a licence is revoked, the licensee has, in spite of the revocation, whatever in the circumstances is a reasonable time to enable him to remove himself and his possessions from the scene of the licence. I have already said that in the circumstances of this case such a reasonable time must extend to whatever is a reasonable time to find alternative accommodation, and, if the day after this notice expired, proceedings had been taken by the minister to eject the defendants, those proceedings would have failed because the defendants were entitled to a reasonable time, and a week was not a reasonable time, to enable them to find alternative accommodation. The circumstance that the threat to remove them before the expiration of what would have been a reasonable time was inserted in the letter does not prevent the letter from being a good notice to determine the licence. That being the position, the county court judge decided that the interval which elapsed between the expiration of the week mentioned in that document and the commencement of these proceedings was a sufficient time to enable alternative accommodation to be found. In view of that finding of fact, the defendants could not complain at the time these proceedings were instituted that they had not been allowed sufficient time in the circumstances to remove themselves and their possessions and find alternative accommodation.” (Emphasis added)
“The next question is whether the notice given must be a reasonable notice, or whether it may be a notice operating at once to determine the licence, the licensees in that event having a reasonable time within which to vacate the theatre. In my opinion, it is the former. I cannot think that any other notice would reflect the intention of reasonable men in the position of the licensors and licensees in the present case. No reasonable man would in that connection deny the relevance of the general proposition that he who sows should be allowed to reap. To my mind, working effect to that proposition is best given in the present case by requiring that the licence should determine when the fruits have been reaped—i.e., at the expiration of a notice the length of which is determined by the commitments of the licensees as they stood under the contract at the date of the notice, rather than by permitting an immediate determination of the licence on the giving of the notice coupled with a right in the licensees to work out the position that existed at the date of the notice. The latter alternative would resemble the exceptional position of a tenant of land expressed to hold at will whose tenancy has been determined by an immediate notice. Under the law relating to emblements he is entitled, paying no rent after his tenancy has determined, to enter and gather his crops. Presumably in the present case, were notice other than a reasonable notice sufficient and given, the licensees working out their position would not in respect of the period after the determination of the licence be under any obligation to pay rent. That is not a commercial proposition. The former alternative that a reasonable notice is necessary accords with the law that a reasonable notice is necessary to determine a tenancy of land held under a general occupation at a rent, where the tenancy is not expressly a tenancy at will: Doe d Martin v Watts. Where rent is reserved by the year, the rule has long ago been rigidly fixed that a reasonable notice is a half year’s notice expiring on the last day of theyear of the tenancy (cf, 13 H VIII, 15 b) and similar rules refining the application of the principle have been laid down as respects general occupation of land at a monthly or weekly rent. But these are rules only. The assertion of the principle and an example of its application will be found in Lowe v Adams. The licence here very closely resembles a tenancy under a general occupation and I would, as respects the nature of right of the licensors to determine it, apply the principle which governs the right to determine such a tenancy. In my opinion, therefore, a reasonable notice was necessary in order to determine the licence.”
“Turning to the present case, the question then arises whether the true intendment of the contract was such as to permit an immediate withdrawal of the licence. My Lords, on that I think it is as clear that the parties did not contemplate an immediate, out-of-hand revocation as it is that they did not intend a perpetual arrangement. What was granted was a licence to use the theatre “for the purpose of producing stage plays, concerts or ballets.”
“there is no limit to the possible varieties of licence”
“All the cases illustrate the flexibility of the principle and the need for the nature of any notice (in particular the question of whether such notice should be dated) to be judged by reference to the particular circumstances of the case.”
“A licence to occupy premises may be granted for a term certain – so that it comes to an end on a fixed date limited by the term – or it may be granted until some event happens – in which case it comes to an end when the event occurs – or it may be granted until it is determined on notice – in which case it will be necessary to ask whether the occasion for giving notice has arisen and, if so, what period of notice (if any) is required.”
“Is the [company] to require to do no more than offer a [lease] on terms which [it] would be prepared to accept? Or is the [company] required to offer a [lease] on terms which reflect the minimum that [it] would be prepared to accept – that is to say, on terms more favourable to the tenant than a landlord would ordinarily offer at the outset of negotiations? Or is the [company] required to offer a [lease] on terms which the [Earl] might reasonably be expected to accept?”