“…. First, as a matter of general law, it is very well established that findings of primary fact, particularly if founded upon an assessment of the credibility of witnesses, are virtually unassailable (see Benmax v Austin Motor Co Ltd[1955] AC 370 ); more recently, the test has been put that an appellant must establish that the fact-finder was plainly wrong (per Stuart-Smith LJ in National Justice Cia Naviera SA v Prudential Assurance Co Ltd (The Ikarian Reefer)[1995] 1 Lloyd’s Rep 455 at 458). Further, the court should only reverse a finding on the facts if it “can be shown that the findings … were sufficiently out of tune with the evidence to indicate with reasonable certainty that the evidence had been misread” (per Lord Hailsham of St Marylebone LC in Libman v General Medical Council[1972] AC 217 at 221F, more recently confirmed in R(Campbell) v General Medical Council[2005] 1 WLR 3488 at [23] per Judge LJ). Finally, in Gupta v General Medical Council[2002] 1 WLR 1691 , Lord Rodger put the matter in this way (at [10] page 1697D): “In all such cases the appeal court readily acknowledges that the first instance body enjoys an advantage which the appeal court does not have, precisely because that body is in a better position to judge the credibility and reliability of the evidence given by the witnesses. In some appeals that advantage may not be significant since the witnesses’ credibility and reliability are not in issue. But in many cases the advantage is very significant and the appeal court recognises that it should accordingly be slow to interfere with the decisions on matters of fact taken by the first instance body. This reluctance to interfere is not due to any lack of jurisdiction to do so. Rather, in exercising its full jurisdiction, the appeal court acknowledges that, if the first instance body has observed the witnesses and weighed their evidence, its decision on such matters is more likely to be correct than any decision of a court which cannot deploy those factors when assessing the position.””
“…. without any arrangements being in place between UCL and Cambridge, I could not simply resign from my post in Cambridge, since I was line-managing a team of 10 post-doctoral researchers, a lab manager and two PhD students at that time. Furthermore, I was then holding grants in Cambridge from various organisations (Wellcome, European Research Council, Lister Institute, BBSRC). Therefore, at that time, I thought that there would be a temporary overlap of my employments in order to allow UCL to set up the necessary arrangements with Cambridge to enable me to continue to work in Cambridge while being employed by UCL. ….This was always my intention, to balance the books for any overlap period, and I paid this back immediately, following recent correspondence with Cambridge.” (Emphasis in the original letter)
“Professor Reddy stated that he thought that the February 2016 payments would together amount to the salary he was expecting from UCL. The Tribunal was not persuaded by this argument. In the bank statement dated 13 January to12 February 2016 Professor Reddy was paid three sums by UOC:£960.62 on 18 January,£657.35 on 25 January; and£5047.97 on 26 January. The latter sum represented his full-time pay. He also received£4740.51 from UCL, a sum which he said was “considerably less” than he was expecting to receive from them.”
“On the balance of probabilities, the Tribunal did not consider it likely that, being as financially aware as the evidence showed him to be, Professor Reddy would not have checked his bank accounts from October 2015 to February 2016.”
“The written evidence from Ms Caroline Newman suggested that the remuneration for Professor Reddy’s clinical work comprised a small part of his overall salary. In the year1 May 2014 to30 April 2015 , for example, the clinical payment was£14,923 plus smaller payments for on-call and a local excellence award. The£5047.92 paid by UOC in February 2016 was similar to Professor Reddy’s full-time net monthly salary from UOC. In the circumstances, the Tribunal rejected Professor Reddy’s evidence that he believed the sum merely to represent his clinical work.”
“The end of grant reports for the Wellcome fellowship should be available soon. This will show my salary costs in Cambridge deducted until September 2015.”
“61. In cross-examination Professor Reddy admitted that his response had not answered Mr Swainsbury’s question, stating that Mr Swainsbury “already knew” that he was being paid twice. He added that it would have been “impolite” to challenge Mr Swainsbury on this matter. The Tribunal rejected that explanation and concluded that Professor Reddy’s failure to respond directly to his question was an attempt to avoid disclosing the true facts. 62. The Tribunal therefore concluded that, even if Professor Reddy initially believed that there was an overpayment which UOC and UCL would resolve between them, he subsequently retained and used some of the money for his own purposes knowing that he was not entitled to do so, having failed to directly address the overpayment with both UOC and UCL. 63. The Tribunal then considered the second limb of the Ivey test [the test for dishonesty]. It concluded that ordinary, decent people would consider that, by knowingly retaining salary that he was not entitled to receive, failing to take prompt action to alert the universities to the two salaries, and using the funds for his own purposes, Professor Reddy was dishonest. 64. The Tribunal therefore finds that Professor Reddy acted dishonestly as alleged….”
“How long did you persist in that explanation, Professor Reddy, that it was anticipated on commencement of the post that there would be a period of overlap and you would pay it back? Was that the account you gave in the UCL disciplinary proceedings? Can you remember?”
“The latter case [English v Emery Reimbold & Strick[2002] 1 WLR 2409 ] made clear that the so-called “duty to give reasons”, is essentially a duty which rests upon judicial and quasi-judicial tribunals to state their decisions in a form which is sufficient to make clear to the losing party why it is that he has lost. This requirement will be satisfied if, having regard to the issues as stated and decided and to the nature and content of the evidence in support, the reasons for the decision are plain, whether because they are set out in terms, or because they are implicit i.e. readily to be inferred from the overall form and content of the decision. I do not think that there is any real difference or substantial inconsistency, other than one of emphasis, between that principle and what was stated in Gupta [[2001] UKPC 61 ,[2002] ICR 785 ], namely that there is no general duty on the PCC of the GMC to give reasons for its decisions on matters of fact, in particular where the essential issue is one of credibility or reliability of the evidence in the case, whilst at the same time recognising that there are cases where the principle of fairness requires reasons to be given “even on matters of fact”: see paragraph 14 of Gupta. It seems to me that such cases are those where, without such reasons, it will not be clear to the losing party why he has lost. It is not a necessary ingredient of the requisite clarity that the reasons should be expressly stated when they are otherwise plain or obvious.”
“55. For my part, I have no difficulty in concluding that, in straightforward cases, setting out the facts to be proved (as is the present practice of the GMC) and finding them proved or not proved will generally be sufficient both to demonstrate to the parties why they won or lost and to explain to any appellate tribunal the facts found. In most cases, particularly those concerned with comparatively simple conflicts of factual evidence, it will be obvious whose evidence has been rejected and why. In that regard, I echo and respectfully endorse the observations of Sir Mark Potter. 56. When, however, the case is not straightforward and can properly be described as exceptional, the position is and will be different. Thus, although it is said that this case is no more than a simple issue of fact (namely, did Dr Southall use the words set out in the charge?), the true picture is far more complex. First, underlying the case for Dr Southall was the acceptance that Mrs M might perfectly justifiably have perceived herself as accused of murder with the result that the analysis of contemporaneous material some eight years later is of real importance: that the evidence which touched upon this conversation took over five days is testament to that complexity. Furthermore it cannot be said that the contemporaneous material was all one way: Dr Corfield's note (and, indeed, her evidence) supported the case that it was (or at least could have been) Mrs M's perception alone. Ms Salem's note (accepted by Mrs M as 100% accurate so far as it went) did not support the accusation and her evidence was that if those words had been said, she would have recorded them. I am not suggesting that a lengthy judgment was required but, in the circumstances of this case, a few sentences dealing with the salient issues was essential: this was an exceptional case and, I have no doubt, perceived to be so by the GMC, Dr Southall and the panel.”
“It is clear from the case law that the duty to give reasons does not oblige a tribunal to make express reference to every matter relied on by the doctor as supporting his version of events and to explain why it has decided that those factors are outweighed by other factors. In a case hinging on credibility, all the doctor needs to be told is why the Panel did not believe him.”
“The Chair: Mr Ramasamy, normally speaking, if the doctor is present of course it would take no more than a minute, if that, to work out whether there were follow-up questions to tribunal questions when those tribunal questions have been quite – well, they have been minimal. I am disappointed that it took about a quarter of an hour, but do you have any questions arising out of tribunal questions? Mr Ramasamy QC: Madam, you will appreciate that I am taking instruction remotely over a link which itself is complicating. You will understand that we are dealing with a bundle that runs to 517 pages, and in those circumstances, in my submission, it is wrong, with the greatest of respect, to suggest that I should have a minute or two to take instruction on tribunal questions. The Chair. That is why I didn’t call you in until it had been ten minutes, and we have now wasted more time, to be honest. Mr Ramasamy QC. We have. The Chair. Can I ask, are there any questions arising out of tribunal questions? Mr Ramasamy QC. There are, madam, and I will be ready to ask those questions, I hope, in a matter of further minutes if I can complete the process. It will take me, I suspect, five or ten minutes, which is what has passed from that. The Chair. You mean you need further time? Mr Ramasamy QC. Yes. I am sorry to ask for time but you will appreciate that when I do have to go to pages in the bundle in order to cross-check and doing it is over a link, it is not the most straightforward process. It is obviously easier if we are all in the same room, we can turn pages up, but when it is remote it just adds a further degree of complexity. The Chair. I have to say, I don’t think this bundle extraordinary in any way in terms of its length. Mr Ramasamy QC. It is not that, with respect, madam. It is the fact that we are doing it over a link which means that from the moment we step out we have to phone, make the link, we have to then ensure that everyone is on the right page, rather than, for example, me opening it and having it in front of everyone at the same time. It just slows the matter by a small proportion. The Chair. 16.15, please. Mr Ramasamy QC. Madam, I am not going to be ready by then. I am sorry. May I ask why it is that I am not being afforded in these circumstances time to take instructions on matters that I feel are appropriate? I would like, please, a reasoned answer with legal advice on that point. I am sorry. The Chair. I do feel that you – you had the opportunity, and I assume that you spoke to the doctor when we had a coffee break earlier on. Mr Ramasamy QC. Before tribunal questions. The Chair. Yes, and I didn’t consider the tribunal’s questions were so extraordinary that it would take quite so long to sort it out. If you wish me to have the Legal Assessor’s advice, then Mr Weinberg. Mr Ramasamy QC. Madam, may I make it clear, I am asking for sufficient time to take instructions from my client remotely over a TV link about matters that I am to raise which arise from tribunal questions, and I would like, please, legal advice on whether it is appropriate to prevent me from having that time. Obviously, I well understand that the tribunal wishes to time-manage. It is now 4.10. The agreed position is that we will sit to 6.30 if need be. That was agreed a long time ago. I would like, please, sufficient time to take instructions from my client. The Chair. Mr Weinberg. The Legal Assessor. Madam, if it will assist you, I think that the position is really that the overriding objective is to ensure a fair hearing, and in the usual way that would include the advocates in the room having a reasonable amount of time to be able to take instructions. That reasonable period of time should reflect the matters that remain at large after the panel questions. Mr Ramasamy has made the position clear that there are additional matters that he needs to take. The question is would it be unfair to him to be precluded from having that additional time. I am not quite sure how long Mr Ramasamy is asking for actually. Mr Ramasamy QC. Well the time that was given to me was five minutes or six minutes from the point it was pronounced. Allowing me time to get back to my room through a security code, make a telephone call to Philadelphia, make sure that is satisfactory, identify the pages, take instructions, make notes, return to the room and be ready, that give me less than six minutes. That is the difficulty. Every single part of the process requires additional delay. The Chair. How long do you need? Mr Ramasamy QC. If I could have 10 to 15 minutes now I will be ready. We are pretty much at the end of the process. The Chair. I am determined that this will be a fair hearing. However, we also have to think about reasonableness, as the Legal Assessor said, of the amount of time that it takes. 25 past in that case. Thank you very much. Mr Ramasamy QC. May I just note for the record it is now, according to the clock on the wall, 14 minutes past. The Chair. Yes. Mr Ramasamy QC. Thank you. The Legal Assessor. Madam, can I suggest, there seems to be a difference between the parties that the princely sum of five minutes, could I suggest ---- Mr Ramasamy QC. Not the parties the tribunal. The Legal Assessor. Sorry, the tribunal, Mr Ramasamy. There is a difference of five minutes and I think to avoid the potential of any future difficulties for the sake of five minutes, it may be more prudent to say that you would resume at 4.30 and that way it avoid any difficulties in practice for that short period of time. I appreciate that it wasn’t your original view, but it may potentially avoid any difficulties. The Chair. Okay. If you are ready before then, can you please let the tribunal know.”
“The Chair. Thank you very much for that time. Mr Ramasamy, thank you for your words. I would like to make the point that I am of course a lay Chair and not a trained lawyer. My LLM does not make me a lawyer, I am very aware. The words “disappointed” and “timewasting” were used in a lay context, so clearly I did not understand them in the way in which you took them. My principal concern yesterday was to time-manage. There was absolutely no intention to demonstrate any bias or prejudice against the defence or against Dr Reddy. If it was interpreted in that way, it was wholly unintentional and it is regretted. Moving forwards, it would certainly be helpful if the tribunal is kept up-to-date with an estimate of the time that you require when you are taking instructions, but I also, like you, look forward to returning to the workmanlike but cordial atmosphere that we have had for the last week and a half.”
“Madam, may I thank the tribunal and the Chair particularly for those words, and I well recognise, as somebody who has to sit in other settings, that things are sometimes said on reflection, such as the words you have just uttered are required. They are received in the spirit in which they are intended and they are gratefully received.”
“….irritation with those appearing before them is, sadly, the common lot of most courts and tribunals from time to time, and is not of itself a basis, subjectively or objectively, for requiring them to recuse themselves on account of bias from further proceedings between the same parties.”