“I am satisfied that the material was lawfully seized in accordance with the wording of the search warrant….I accept that the police acted within section 53(2) and wrote a timely report to the CPS in May 2002 (sic). It is unfortunate that the CPS dragged their feet for 11 months. The police acted reasonably in checking the legitimate suppliers and as a result of that they genuinely believed, I find, that a considerable amount of this stuff must be stolen; certainly on the balance of probabilities it is likely to be stolen and that is good enough for today’s purposes….I also accept the senior officer’s expertise that it may well be that a proportion of this, beyond the fanciful, is likely to turn out to be genuine…it seems to me that there is a “chunk” of this material that is very unlikely to be proven to be stolen goods. It also seems to me likely that there is a much bigger “chunk” that is likely to be proven to be stolen. However, copper is a very valuable commodity and it is unfair on the Applicant that the court does not have a go at apportioning the difference between that amount of property which the police can legitimately hang on to and that which they should return, pursuant to the statute. Doing the best I can, I find that at least one quarter of the 148 tonnes is likely to turn out to be legitimate. It may be that much more will be, but I am safe, I believe, at a quarter and that properly balances the interest both of the public in the sense of the prosecution and the applicants.”
“Copper Recycling. The company purchases items and material containing copper…which it then processes in order to extract the copper for onward sales. There are two stages to the extraction process, the first involves breaking down the raw materials into an aggregate state where the copper remains mixed with plastics and other metals (shredding). The second stage involves filtering the shredded material so as to produce granules of copper (of differing grades) for onward sales.”
“Q. And how – how can you conclude from that, that the whole of the 148 tonnes is – is suspiciously stolen goods, reasonably believed stolen goods? A. I can’t say what proportion is, I just know what I have been given on the statements that there was – um – paper at the side of the granulating machine where the copper was stood.”
“Q. So you would not be surprised if a chunk of this was legitimate? A. Yeah, on – I can only refer to what I said in the first instance. When –the policy was that only things identified as stolen property---- Q. Yes. A. ----would be recovered and we have statements from BT and Network Rail saying the stuff we – nothing else, just the stuff that we recovered, are stolen items and that’s why I’ve got to stand by the statements that we obtained. Q. I know; you are in an impossible position. But it would not surprise you to find that a third of this is actually legitimate stuff? A. That may come out in – in due course when – when further sort of things are brought to a court and for me to look at, but at the moment I have to go with the statements and the evidence that I’ve got.”