"The defendant's account as given to us in evidence is that earlier that day he had been in Hastings visiting his friend, Mr Martin Lott, whom we also heard from. Mr Martin Lott had this knife, he described it as a fishing knife, that was a present from his wife. He was going through a rocky patch in his marriage and was feeling down and said words to the effect of, 'she gave it to me, I would like to give it back to her', which this defendant took to be, as we understand it, a veiled threat against his wife, whereupon this defendant took possession of the knife. The defendant's case is that he then put [it] into the back pocket of his jeans and simply forgot about it for the rest of the day. We, all three of us, unhesitatingly do not accept that evidence. We reject that evidence as being untruthful. In particular, we have in mind that the knife with the wooden handle and brass ends would have been hard, whereas the money in his pocket, even a substantial quantity which he tells us about, approximately£1,200 in cash, would not have been so hard. In any event, we do not believe that he could simply forget about this possession in the circumstances he says that it came into his possession. In addition, when giving evidence, when asked if he had recounted the conversation between him and his friend Mr Lott to his wife in the restaurant he said yes, but then said that he had not told her about the knife. We find it inconceivable that if he had recounted the exchange between himself and Mr Lott, he would not then have remembered about the knife and at least told his wife about it and realised that he had needed to hand it to the police. We have been referred to the law in the case of R v Jolie, a decision of the Court of Appeal criminal division 2003, EWCA Crim 1543, which of course means that the Crown do not have to prove that he had it knowingly in his possession. We are perfectly satisfied that he had it knowingly in his possession in a public place. We do not necessarily have to go into his explanation of how it came into his possession, in our judgment that is unnecessary, and consequently we do not do so."