“On Tuesday26th July 2022 , I remember that [C] was fine during the day. I can’t remember what we did. She would have gone to bed at normal bedtime, between 7-8:30pm. I think that day she took longer to go down. [D] would have gone to bed at the same time as [C]. [B] would have gone to bed around the same time, in his own bedroom and [A] would have gone to bed in her own bedroom a bit later. The two young girls shared a big bedroom. As they had the biggest room, the children would often all play in there together. As I said earlier, we rarely used the front living room and mainly stayed upstairs or in the kitchen. 44. I went to my bedroom after the children had gone to bed. I left my bedroom door open as per usual. Later on, I really can’t be sure when, but sometime between 11pm and midnight, I heard [A] get up to go to the toilet and say to [C] to go back to bed and ask her why is she up. I could see [A] from my bed, but couldn’t see [C], who was standing further down the hallway out of sight. I also asked from my bedroom why she was up and that she needed to go back to bed. [C] said that she had a headache. I said “you looked fine earlier on, go back to bed”
“CALL OPERATOR: Hello. I'm just calling to find out some more information. Tell me exactly what's happened. UNKNOWN FEMALE: Um, so my daughter, around, um, one o'clock, or no, just before one, around 12, she was, um, she's always been a child that doesn't sleep, but, um, it's when she was going in her bed, she, like, um - she tripped and she lightly banged her head. So it wasn't anything to worry about. Um, since then, she's been acting very weird, as [inaudible]. Um, she just - she just went unconscious, and I had to just throw water and shake her and wake her up. Literally, she lost conscience [sic] for about two minutes…. CALL OPERATOR: Are you with her now? UNKNOWN FEMALE: Yeah, I'm holding her down because she's acting very weird. CALL OPERATOR: How old is she? UNKNOWN FEMALE: She's four years old. CALL OPERATOR: Is she awake? UNKNOWN FEMALE: Yeah, she's awake right now. CALL OPERATOR: Is she breathing? UNKNOWN FEMALE: Yeah, she's breathing. CALL OPERATOR: And how long ago did this happen? UNKNOWN FEMALE: Um, 12 o'clock. CALL OPERATOR: Almost four hours ago. UNKNOWN FEMALE: Yeah, almost four hours ago.”
“At 0000, hit back of head on back of door, nil LOC or vomiting at the time, mum then reports had episode of not being responsive at 0300 and has been acting not her usual self since. Mum denies bat chance she could have ingested anything, reports nil recreational drugs in home. Nil medications notes. Normally fit and well…”
“…overnight [C] had said to mum that when going home ‘her and Paddington bear will punch the man if he’s at her house.’ The Mental Health Team were asked to assess [C] and following assessment they concluded at that time that: there were no acute mental health concerns;…and that a differential diagnosis could be migraine with aura and hallucinations.”
“[A] has been on Topiramate for a number of years and continues to have headaches. She doesn’t like the way the medication makes her feel, and even at low doses Topiramatecan have cognitive side-effects. I think it would be reasonable to come of Topiramate and see if this is associated with any changes in her headaches … I think psychology input is likely to be the most helpful for[A].”
“I reviewed [C] in clinic following a recent admission with collapse, confusion, possible hallucinations, tremor and agitation, resulting in a 1 week admission and treatment with antibiotics and antivirals until symptoms resolved and investigations came back negative. Initial urine toxicology screen was negative as were investigations for encephalitis, but subsequent to discharge the results of her bloods showed a high topiramate level. We discussed the high topiramate level in clinic today, and mum had not been aware of [C] taking her older sister’s medication, but the lock for the cabinet with the medication in had been broken and we went through medicine storage and safety advice. I advised [C] that she could have been even more badly hurt by taking medicine that she does not know and should never do this again, and [C] did not enjoy her admission or the various tests done. I advised that I would be informing the health visitor via this letter as part of routine information sharing. I would be grateful if [C]’s GP could ensure that this information is shared with the health visitor and if any further concerns raised on health visitor review then followed up. I am pleased to hear that since discharge [C] has recovered well and since then has had ongoing pains, similar to her sister [A] who has migraines.”
“75. Sometime in the later afternoon or evening, the kids said “[C] is going weird again” because was zoning out. [C] said “mummy I don’t feel good, I feel weird” and “the world is upside down”
“I don’t remember exactly what we did at home that day. We didn’t leave the house because [C] was not well, [A] was still unwell and [D] too. My symptoms were also heightened, with leaking and bleeding, strong pains from my stomach, fatigue and aching joints; I think this impacted my ability to focus and think clearly as I was distracted by trying to manage this as well; I was under immense mental and physical pressure. [C] was sleeping on and off throughout the day and watching TV with me. She was complaining of a sore stomach and was still feeling hot. There were some moments with [C] where she was showing unusual symptoms. These symptoms included ‘primal behaviour’ like seeing colours, looking around, walking around naked, a bit of hallucinating (“I can see somebody there”). She was also crying on and off saying she didn’t feel well. There were moments on the Saturday where she wasn’t responding to me normally either. I have to accept that looking back now, these are all symptoms for which a child should get medical advice for. I did not think to get it as I wanted to continue to assess it and follow advice from [Dr G] in my December meeting and more generally I believed this was a migraine and her symptoms were in keeping with that. I was also unwell myself which I elaborate on a bit below and I think this impacted on my ability to think straight as I was finding the pain in my stomach and back, the bleeding from my bottom all happening simultaneously, quite preoccupying and difficult to manage. I had to really dig deep to try and support [C] but on reflection, should have asked for help far sooner. 84. It was some time after 8pm when she said that she didn’t feel well and that she was scared. Her pupils dilated and her eyes rolled back in her head. She went lifeless. I literally thought she was dead. I screamed and [B] woke up and came running in. He immediately started to perform chest compressions on her. I was crying and trying to find her pulse on her wrist and heart. [A] came running upstairs with water and put the fan on her face. I was crying and tried to blow air into her mouth. She appeared to me to be unconscious and this lasted for about 3-4 minutes. I was extremely scared and panicked. The children were also panicked and upset. [C] came around and was sitting up. I knew we had to get to hospital, so I started to get dressed and get [C] dressed. I couldn’t move very quickly because my body was in a lot of pain. I went into a state of fright, I froze during this time and went into a paralysis of thought through my panic; this meant I made very bad decisions about what to do. In hindsight, if I was having difficulty with the phone system I should have called my Mum to come over sooner and simply taken [C] to A& E much earlier. I thought the symptoms displayed were largely akin to her migraines and I was following previous guidelines from the GP to call them. My judgement was off. I have to accept this. I also have to accept that the impact of my decision making could have been catastrophic for [C] and that it was also very traumatic for [B]. 85. I tried to call 111 but it didn’t go through and I just thought it would be quicker to make my own way in again. I called my mum and explained that I needed to take [C] to hospital so asked her to come over and look after the other children. Mum asked me if I had called an ambulance and I said no, not yet. I can’t remember if I then tried to call 999. I called a few other people on the estate to see if they could come over to help, but no one answered their phones. 86. My mum managed to get over really quickly. She was about 15 minutes away in the car. She arrived and got the other children ready to take to her house. I left with [C] who was strapped into a car seat. She seemed ok in the car seat. We arrived at [the hospital] at 21:20 on29th July 2023 .”
“Triage Notes: Hx taken from mum. 3-4 minutes unconscious episode, full resuscitation with chest compression and threw water on her. Mum says she may have seen a spirit hence this episode. No tonic clonic movement, eyes rolled back, tongue was to the side, stopped breathing. Same episode happened a year ago, mum said she was told by doctors she took her sisters epileptic medicine, declines this. NIC and consultant informed….”
“Toxins: Urine toxicology screen was negative [sic]. Serum topiramate 21 initially. Repeated and was 15 (note NOT taking topiramate). Salicylate and paracetamol levels normal….”
“Are symptoms keeping up with topiramate digestion? - Yes Is it possible any other reason to cause high topiramate levels? - Unlikely but we need to call the lab ho runs the test to ask about sensitivity, spesificty and cross reactivity of the essay. At this moment, if she is clinically well no need for interventions Repeat levels would help to see topiramate is clearing out of system.”
“We still are awaiting metabolic tests. I note provisional topiramate level is 5. She should not have any topiramate in her blood stream at all, so this is a significant result. Mother denies that the tablets could be obtained by children as they do not know where they are and the cupboard is locked. I asked if the young person taking the topiramate hated them and spat them out / hid the tablets, so [C] could find them and take them. [Dr R] had already asked the family this question and the answer was "no". Therefore, we need to consider an intentional ingestion rather than accidental given this information.”
“I would be concerned that there had been over reporting of symptoms and over medicalisation of a problem (migraine) which it appears could have been managed with lifetstyle/environmental interventions.”
“I remember subsequently talking to [Dr R] in person on the ward. I told her that my opinion was this a toxicology issue. I pointed out the previous topiramate results and said I was worried this was the most likely explanation. I explained that [C]’s mother had categorically stated there was no way [C] could get tablets, and I had given her the opportunity to explain if the medicine cupboard was every unlocked. She said no. I asked whether [C]’s sister had ever spat out tablets or hidden them places that [C] could find them. I was told by [C]’s mother this was not possible. [Dr R] said to me she would be surprised if it was a poisoning from her interactions with [M]. I reiterated my opinion that no other diagnosis makes sense in this situation and we should ensure topiramate levels are sent and to keep an open mind.”
“There is reported reduction of headache symptoms, less use of analgesics and better sleeping pattern in all the children since placement with maternal grandmother’s care. Better care and environment are some of the reasons for these improvement in my opinion.”
“I identify [M] as some who has rather low ‘mentalising’ capacity; that is emotional literacy skills to interpret thoughts, feelings and behaviours in herself and others. I also suggest that [M] is mildly avoidant in her psychological style. This means she tends to avoid and detach herself from difficult emotions and experiences, preferring to push them aside. This can make her appear rather pragmatic and measured in her interactions with others, even when discussing emotive topics.”
“I identify some concerns about [M]’s insight into her children’s emotional needs and possibly anxiety driven health related behaviours towards her children. I suggest [M]’s psychological profile would be consistent with someone who might over-interpret physical health problems in her children and be invested in medical explanations for their presentations. I also suggest [M]’s physical health problems could, at times, make it more difficult for her to meet her children’s.”
“7.4.2 What I can say is that many elements of [M]’s parenting capacity do not appear problematic. [M] can evidently ensure that her children’s basic needs are met, and she has parented alone for many years with minimal Social Care involvement previously. [M] also evidently suffers from considerable physical health problems, which would be expected to make the parenting task more difficult, particularly as she is largely a single parent. She does seem to have managed fairly well but I wonder if [M]’s physical health issues have reduced her overall parenting capacities at times; for example, ensuring the children’s regular school attendance and punctuality because she is too tired and unwell to take them to school herself. 7.4.3 Where I also have some concerns is in the areas of emotional attunement and possibly anxiety-driven health related behaviours. As mentioned, I believe [M] struggles with mentalizing and I found her insight into her children’s emotional needs was rather limited. I suggest [M] could find it hard to take her children’s perspectives and to identify what they might be thinking and feeling, particularly when these are more nuanced. I found [M] showed a surprising lack of outwardly expressed concern or reaction during interview to [C]’s experiences of Topiramate exposure, which must have been highly distressing for [C]. I would say [M]’s presentation in this regard is consistent with her rather detached, avoidant psychological style. It does, however, lead me to question how well [M] can connect with her children’s experiences and emotions. 7.4.4 I also believe [M]’s tendency towards anxiety and worry about health could have implications in terms of how she understands the children’s physical health needs and presentations. For instance, there are some concerns in the court documents that [M] could have over-interpreted the children’s medical needs. As mentioned, [M] has a history of stress related health problems herself, and it seems plausible that she might transfer this onto her parenting and understanding of her children’s needs. 7.4.5 Finally, I would mention [M]’s protective capacities and the concerns about the delay in taking [C] to hospital, even when she was seriously unwell. I find this a rather perplexing and worrying aspect of this case at this stage. I do not think this delay relates to cognitive issues; i.e. that [M] did not understand that [C] needed hospital treatment. It is also incongruent with [M]’s narratives of herself as an attentive and highly committed parent who is invested in physical explanations for her children’s difficulties. Her psychological profile does not easily account for this either as [M] is not obviously lacking in empathy or protective capacities elsewhere (e.g. in relation to [B]’s father). One possibility is that it could link to a “freeze” response in response to severe stress and panic. Finally, it could be that [M] was actively trying to avoid taking [C] to hospital (e.g. se she knew she had given [C] Topiramate inappropriately or was worried about authorities becoming involved for another reason). This latter possibility, if proven by the court, would have significant implications for my understanding of [M]’s parenting capacity. As the facts have not yet been determined, I would respectfully suggest that I comment upon this further following the fact-finding hearing, particularly if findings are made that implicate the mother in giving the children unprescribed medication and/or that [M] deliberately delayed medical treatment for [C].”
“8.5.3 On both admissions [C] had measurable topiramate levels in her blood. This was despite her not being on topiramate and the expectation that if a child is not on this drug then the level should be zero. I note that the treating clinicians had detailed discussions with the clinical biochemistry team about the possibility that either another substance, or a medical condition, or a machine error might have led to an erroneous positive result and the conclusion was that this was not the case. 8.5.4 At the age she was at the time [C] may have been able to open a child proof cap, although I am aware that the standard is for these not to be able to be opened by the majority of children aged over 5y. 8.5.5. However, I would not have expected her to have been able to easily swallow the tablets unless she had had pill training (which is done with some children with chronic and severe disorders where medication is either unpalatable in liquid form or cannot be formulated in liquid form). If she had chewed the tablet then this would have been bitter and so I would have expected her to spit it out. However, if the tablet or tablets were crushed and given in some other substance then this could have been swallowed by [C]. 8.5.6 Therefore for [C] to have had measurable levels of topiramate in her blood she would have been expected to ingest it. If she ingested tablets on her own, she would have needed to access the tablet bottle (which was reported to be locked away), open the child safety top (which is standard on pharmacy dispensed bottles), either swallow down a number of tablets (which would be difficult for a child of her age to do) or chew and swallow the tablets (which is unlikely given their bitter taste) or crush the tablets and mix them in with some other food (which she would have had to access herself). While each of these exists as a possibility I think they are highly unlikely to be the case all together. For this reason I think it is more likely that [C] was given topiramate by someone else. I am not able to say who that might be. 8.5.7 I have seen a report by the Forensic toxicologist, Dr Douse. He has described a scenario where topiramate tablets were secreted around the house by [A] instead of her swallowing these. This then raises the possibility that [C] would pick up these tablets and ingest them herself. This is possible, the tablets are pink and so could be an attractive option for a child to pick up. However, as noted above, the tablets are bitter tasting and I would not expect that a child would choose to swallow more than one of these on repeated occasions even if she was capable of swallowing tablets at that age.”
"(2)A court may only make a care or supervision order if it is satisfied: (a) that the child concerned is suffering or is likely to suffer significant harm; and (b) that the harm or likelihood of harm is attributable to: (i) the care given to the child or likely to be given to him if the order were not made, not being what it would be reasonable to expect a parent to give him."
“…It is an elementary proposition that findings of fact must be based on evidence, including inferences that can properly be drawn from the evidence and not on suspicion or speculation.”
“…I would only add that in cases where repeated accounts are given of events surrounding injury and death, the court must think carefully about the significance or otherwise of any reported discrepancies. They may arise for a number of reasons. One possibility is of course that they are lies designed to hide culpability. Another is that they are lies told for other reasons. Further possibilities include faulty recollection or confusion at times of stress or when the importance of accuracy is not fully appreciated, or there may be inaccuracy or mistake in the record-keeping or recollection of the person hearing and relaying the account. The possible effects of delay and repeated questioning upon memory should also be considered, as should the effect on one person of hearing accounts given by others. As memory fades, a desire to iron out wrinkles may not be unnatural – a process that might inelegantly be described as "story-creep" may occur without any necessary inference of bad faith.”
“[A] shared that since she was 7 years old she has been taking different medications. [A] stated that since September last year she stopped taking medication [A] expressed she doesn’t like taking medication. [A] said, “I don’t take it sometimes”. [A] stated that her mum gives her the medication and she pretends to take it. She puts it in her mouth and keeps it under her tongue. She takes it out when mum leaves the room and flush it in the toilet.”
“Hi its me [A] I haven't been able to call you but i needed to tell you that i I was hiding medicine around the house since y5 when i started getting bullied at school I didn't feel happy I felt sad and I wanted to die. When my mum found out she threw all the ones she found in the bin but I don't know if she found all of them and my memory is blurry so I don't remember everywhere I put them so mabye she didnt find them all. [C] might have found it and taken it maybe she's not silly but I don't know she loves to touch stuff especially my things. The last time my mum found medicine was at the end of May after my sister [D] birthday party when she was tidying up she found it in the sitting room underneath the speakers she threw it in the bin. She never saw it before because we hardly go in the sitting room were mostly upstairs with my mum or in our own rooms. Please I hope I'm not in trouble.”
“5. Discussion with [A] regarding her email to Guardian Mr G’s underlining in the statement I explored with [A] whether she wrote the email herself and what prompted her to write the email. [A] said, “I did not say it before because I don’t like talking and sometimes my memory goes blurry”. [A] added, “I did not say it before because I don’t want to get in trouble. I thought if I say that they will call the police and I will be arrested”. 6. I asked [A] to explain what she actually did regarding hiding the medication at home, why she did that and where she had been hiding it. [A] told me that she used to get bullied by a girl in school when she was in Year 5. She got sad because of that. When she came home from school she took the paper clip, unfolded it and used it to open the medication box kept in her mother’s wardrobe. [A]added that she would take a few of the medication and hide it in different places. 7. I explored further with [A] where she hid the medication. [A]said, “In my room, under my bed”
“35. I came to realise that [A] was not taking the medication because I found the odd Topiramate pill on occasion though I just can’t say exactly when that happened.”
“8.5.4 At the age she was at the time [C] may have been able to open a child proof cap, although I am aware that the standard is for these not to be able to be opened by the majority of children aged over 5y.”
“13. It is noted that Topiramate has been reported to be a significantly bitter compound and that complaints have been made to the manufacturers in this regard. 14. In response the manufacturers have created some formulations containing sucrose in order to mask and also shield the active ingredient against detection by the taste buds during ingestion. 15. One formulation is noted to be small spheres coated in sugar (known as “sprinkles”) and contained in a gelatine capsule, intended for addition to food. … 17. It can be seen that such capsules (e.g. chewed in order to rupture the containing gelatine shell) might possibly have presented a more attractive ingestion experience due to the sensation of sweetness prior to swallowing. 18. The situation is also further complicated, as it has been reported that topiramate commonly causes alteration in taste sensation (dysgeusia), and may even also have the potential for loss of both the sensations of taste and also perception of aroma (smell) in children. (Cleveland Clinic, Dysgeusia, 2024), (A Ghanizadeh, Eat Weight Disord, (2009, (14), 137). 19. It remains unknown at this time as to whether the alterations in taste sensation are necessarily always predictable as necessarily being adverse for each individual person. (ibidem). 20. Such a situation could be seen to have the potential to render the flavour perception to a child possibly more favourable and hence the ingestion of topiramate tablets potentially more possible. … 27. It should also be noted that topiramate tablet formulations often contain starch (in addition to lactose), and that therefore the effect of prolonged contact with saliva (which contains a very effective enzyme (salivary amylase) capable of converting starch to a sweet tasting disaccharide sugar (maltose)), might be to further sweeten the disintegrated remains of the tablets (further than that already achieved by the presence of lactose, following their secretion around the house...”
“In addition to the issues with detection in hair samples of the other family members, this situation could also have provided the opportunity for the child [C] to have ingested crumbled remains of tablets e.g. by contamination of her hands, or by ingesting partially disintegrated tablets, e.g. due to the reported possible tendency of young children to copy the behaviour of elder children in the family...”
“M had seen C with Mometasone furoate spray and Topiramate milpharm 25 (Appears to have three blisters open).”
“At 0000, hit back of head on back of door, nil LOC or vomiting at the time, mum then reports had episode of not being responsive at 0300 and has been acting not her usual self since. Mum denies bat chance she could have ingested anything, reports nil recreational drugs in home. Nil medications notes. Normally fit and well, NKDA, imms UTD, nil SS. declared. O/e GCS 13/15, PEARL 5+, brady cardic, normotensive, o2 sats 100%, for examination.”
“(1) When a court determines any question with respect to— (a) the upbringing of a child; or (b) the administration of a child’s property or the application of any income arising from it, the child’s welfare shall be the court’s paramount consideration.” (a) the upbringing of a child; or (b) the administration of a child’s property or the application of any income arising from it, the child’s welfare shall be the court’s paramount consideration.” the child’s welfare shall be the court’s paramount consideration.”
“(3) In the circumstances mentioned in subsection (4), a court shall have regard in particular to— (a) the ascertainable wishes and feelings of the child concerned (considered in the light of his age and understanding); (b) his physical, emotional and educational needs; (c) the likely effect on him of any change in his circumstances; (d) his age, sex, background and any characteristics of his which the court considers relevant; (e) any harm which he has suffered or is at risk of suffering; (f) how capable each of his parents, and any other person in relation to whom the court considers the question to be relevant, is of meeting his needs; (g) the range of powers available to the court under this Act in the proceedings in question.” (a) the ascertainable wishes and feelings of the child concerned (considered in the light of his age and understanding); (b) his physical, emotional and educational needs; (c) the likely effect on him of any change in his circumstances; (d) his age, sex, background and any characteristics of his which the court considers relevant; (e) any harm which he has suffered or is at risk of suffering; (f) how capable each of his parents, and any other person in relation to whom the court considers the question to be relevant, is of meeting his needs; (g) the range of powers available to the court under this Act in the proceedings in question.”
“I feel really bad because the position in evidence that I gave is different, I’ve agreed that if no findings against mother then kids can go home – I was questioned by all as this was the view of CG and ISW… Maybe we should speak.”
“I understand that there may be some confusion regarding the Local Authority’s position, following the oral evidence provided by the Social Worker when giving live evidence during the current final hearing. I therefore seek to clarify the Local Authority’s position. I have also discussed this with other Senior Managers within the Local Authority as appropriate and information has been shared with both the Director, Mr [B] and Executive Director [AC].”
“In discussion with Ms [LP], with regard to her oral evidence and the proposition that was put to her, she confirms that she stated under some pressure, that what was being proposed could have been considered. However, decisions regarding care plans for children are made at care planning meetings held within the Local Authority and are ratified by senior managers and therefore unfortunately Ms [LP] did not have the authority to agree to any change of care plan and perhaps the court might have adjourned to allow this to happen.”
“….I accept, of course, as the authorities make clear, that the changing of a child's surname is a matter of importance and that in determining whether or not a change should take place the court must first and foremost have regard to the welfare of the child. There are many factors which must be taken into account, not only those pertaining to the present situation but also those which are likely to affect the child in the future. Just as the fact that the mother happens to bear a different surname from the child is not a sufficient reason for changing the child's surname…so the fact that mother and child bear the same name should not necessarily be sufficient reason for refusing a change if there are valid countervailing reasons.”
“…It has often been observed that the use of surnames is among the questions which give rise to the most deeply felt disputes between parents. As in other areas, the parents are liable to see the question raised as reflecting upon their own rights. It is clear from the arguments which have been advanced in the courts below and even to some extent your Lordships' House that the father and mother see the present dispute largely in such terms. They are mistaken. Once the dispute has arisen, the paramount consideration is the welfare of the child. The attitude and views of the individual parents are only relevant insofar as they may affect the conduct of those persons and therefore indirectly affect the welfare of the child.”