“Abdul will require an interpreter who speaks Urdu fluently and can translate anything said to him in English to Urdu.”
“The application relates to my mother Fahmida. I do not agree that Abdul should be appointed to manage her affairs. He initially moved in as her lodger. We later discovered that he married my Mum. I do not feel that my mother’s welfare is his motivation for wanting to be her deputy. In addition to that he is uneducated, unable to speak English, and unfamiliar with systems in the UK. I propose that I am appointed my mother’s deputy. Should this matter not be dealt with administratively, I request it is listed for a hearing.”
“After my father passed away in October 1994 it was both my mother and I residing at the property until March 1999, when I got married. Later that year my mother took in Abdul as a lodger. After Abdul entered my mother’s life, I feel the mother and daughter relationship was taken away. I have not been able to visit my mother freely. All visits were like an appointment with Abdul giving permission to me to visit. He would also sit in the same room during my visit. My children have not had the experience of having a grandmother. I feel that, had she been able to spend more time with them on a free basis, the dementia would not have set in as quick as it did. We moved from Forest Gate to Ilford to be closer to Mum. Unfortunately, I’ve seen less of my mother over the last two years than I had done before. On previous occasions I would receive copies of letters from the hospitals/doctors regarding my mother’s health. This was stopped by Abdul. Now I am not aware of what medications my mother is on or of all of her symptoms. The odd times I have received a call from Abdul is when my mother has been taken into hospital, otherwise all I am told is that she is fine. After getting married, my mother told me to keep all the house keys so that I could have access all the time. Without any discussions Abdul changed the locks and told me I didn’t need a copy. I should like the court to consider my statement and propose a different order in which I am a part of.”
“The Public Guardian is unable to comment on this in a general sense and is of the opinion that it will depend upon whether a prospective deputy is able to satisfy the court that he has the ability to make best interest decisions for property and financial affairs, understands what acting as a deputy entails, and that he has suitable arrangements in place enabling the fulfilment of a deputy’s obligations in terms of interfacing with third parties, record keeping and reporting to the Public Guardian.”
“The Public Guardian would have concerns about the impact on P’s funds if a deputy seeks to use a professional interpreter. The Public Guardian would also have concerns about the use of a non-professional interpreter, such as a friend or family member, in case they had their own agenda or had a lack of understanding about what they were being asked to translate.”
“The Public Guardian is unable to comment on this in a general sense and is of the opinion that, if the court appoints a person suitable to be appointed as deputy, for either property and affairs or personal welfare, the Public Guardian will provide support to enable that deputy to perform the deputyship functions. The Public Guardian’s position is that if, after a deputy’s appointment, the Public Guardian is of the opinion that, despite support being provided, the deputy is not able to fulfil the deputyship functions, the Public Guardian will consider referring to the court a decision on the future of the deputyship.”
“Although the Court of Protection General Visitor advised that Abdul’s command of the English language is limited, the evidence shows that he has managed to put strategies in place to help him, and has managed to look after Fahmida’s affairs for a number of years now. Abdul’s niece confirmed that she provides the support he needs to manage Fahmida’s affairs. The Court of Protection General Visitor made Abdul’s niece aware of what being a deputy involves and the niece confirmed that she is prepared to continue supporting Abdul and would also continue to do so is he was appointed Fahmida’s deputy. Fahmida and Abdul receive support from a social worker for the Mental Health Team at the London Borough of Redbridge and their social worker advised he has no concerns about Abdul managing Fahmida’s affairs and thinks Abdul is the obvious choice. Whilst the Public Guardian might have concerns about a family member being used as an interpreter for a deputy in this case, there is no evidence to support any concerns in respect of Adeela and the support she has provided interpreting for Abdul to date. The Public Guardian’s position is that he has no objection to Abdul being appointed as Fahmida’s deputy for property and affairs or personal welfare.”
“The Court of Protection General Visitor advised on3 December 2015 that Fahmida is not capable of expressing any wishes or feelings in respect of this application. Her lack of capacity has also been confirmed by her social worker from the Mental Health Team at the London Borough of Redbridge.”
“It is clear from the report of the Public Guardian that Abdul is not able to act as a deputy without the assistance of an interpreter. The costs of an interpreter would be a drain on Fahmida’s income and finances and it would appear that the Public Guardian has no objection to Abdul being appointed as deputy for property and affairs or personal welfare on the basis of the support currently in place for Abdul provided by his niece, Adeela. It is submitted that in these circumstances, before deciding whether to grant the application and make Abdul Fahmida’s deputy (whether property and affairs alone, or also personal welfare), the court needs to be satisfied in respect of the permanence and reliability of the support Adeela provides. Currently there is no evidence or information regarding Adeela. For example, how old is she, where does she live, is she married, does she have children, what are her work and other commitments, how much support does she provide – is it on a regular basis or ad hoc? Also, it is submitted that the court will need to know what plans or strategies are in place should Adeela not be available either in the short term or in the longer term to provide the support she currently does. It is submitted that any order appointing Abdul as deputy to Fahmida will have to have a mechanism by which the matter is returned to court should the current support and interpretation services provided by Adeela no longer be in place. It is clear from the report of the Public Guardian that Abdul requires support in order to act as a deputy for Fahmida. Set out below are the respondents’ proposals should Abdul be appointed as deputy and how any such appointment should be limited. If the following course is followed, it is submitted that the court will not at this stage need to further enquire or determine the factual matters in dispute between the parties. In line with the principle that the powers of a deputy should be as limited in scope as is reasonably practicable, it is submitted that any order making Abdul deputy for property and affairs should not include a power in respect of selling and letting of property, or other assets, and so should include an order that Abdul “must not sell, lease or charge any freehold or leasehold property in which Fahmida has a beneficial interest without obtaining a further authority from the court. It is submitted that not only would such a restriction ensure that the powers conferred are as limited as is reasonably practicable, it will also meet the current concerns raised by Abdul and the reasons behind the application, Abdul is reported by the General Visitor to have stated that “the house is in Fahmida’s name, he is not concerned about the house but it was more important to look after Fahmida because he cares about her.”