"Mr Rogers was a compelling witness with an impressive eye for detail. He was unshakeable in his recollection that Prince and Ricardo had started to back away after you, Alkhader [Qasem], had produced a silver object extending four inches from your hand from your waistband. Whilst the CCTV footage is unclear, I accept Mr Rogers’ evidence and am satisfied to the criminal standard, being the standard to which I make all my findings of fact, that the object which he saw in your hand was a knife which you had brought with you to Raby Street intending to have it available to use as a weapon. It is I find for that reason that Prince, who had instigated the confrontation on that day and was known to police himself to have been involved in earlier violent criminal activity, had backed off and ran away together with Ricardo. Acknowledging that you had not anticipated the initial confrontation, I reject Mr Ford, KC’s submission to the effect that you had had no reason to be carrying a knife, on your own evidence you and Is’haaq had been victims of earlier robberies in the area in which a knife had been used... It was your case, Alkhader [Qasem], rejected by the jury, that you had acted in self-defence. Your evidence was that you had run after Prince thinking that you would have a fist fight and that in the course of that chase you had seen him drop one knife from his waistband which you had then picked up when he had come at you with a second knife, apparently retrieved from a nearby bush, and with which you had thought that he would stab you. It had been for that reason, so you told the jury, that you had lashed out with the knife which Prince had dropped. By its verdict the jury has rejected your contention that you had acted in lawful self-defence. I reject your contention that you had stabbed Prince with his own knife, being sure that that account is innately implausible. Had Prince been armed he would have been likely to have stood his ground rather than back off from the earlier confrontation. Furthermore, the prospect that having run away he would both have dropped a knife which he had been carrying and immediately thereafter been in a position to retrieve a second knife which just happened to have been concealed to his knowledge in a nearby bush I regard as fanciful. Accepting that some physical altercation took place in the course of which you received an injury to your eye and possibly to your abdomen, I am sure that you, Alkhader [Qasem], inflicted the three stab wounds which Prince received using your own knife."
"However, the Judge was in the best position to make factual findings, as she had presided at the trial. As you rightly accept, she correctly set out the principles on which a judge should proceed in relation to factual findings for sentence in circumstances in which such findings are not inherent in the jury’s verdict. On the basis of all the evidence, but notably that of Mr Rogers who said that he saw you draw a silver object about four inches long from your waistband before you and your co-defendant chased after the victim who was stabbed to death, it was unarguably open to the Judge to find to the criminal standard that you had drawn a knife before chasing the victim and thus taken the knife to the scene of the stabbing."