“7. If the evidence is admitted, then should the case subsequently be stopped under s.125? This safeguard should be considered in all cases where it applies, at the initiative of the court if the parties do not raise it. It will generally be best determined at the conclusion of all the evidence. This is reinforced by the fact that this is the stage when the judge is likely to have drafted legal directions and to be consulting counsel about them. In a case of this kind, where the prosecution seeks to prove an important and disputed fact by relying on hearsay, the judge is required to give a careful and tailored direction to assist the jury in deciding whether they can safely rely on the hearsay or not. Its sufficiency will be relevant to the safety of any resulting conviction and it will be helpful for the judge to have regard to it when carrying out the assessment required by s.125.”
"It was fucking ages before she went quiet, it took her a long time to die."
“After the Police left I spoke to my mum about the situation with Joe. We spoke about the murder Joe was being questioned about. During this I asked her how he was meant to have killed the woman. She replied that he was supposed to have stabbed her in the neck with a pair of scissors and kicked her in the head. We continued to speak about the situation and that she was fed up with being raised all the time and that she did not think Joe had done it.”
“the defendant has had the opportunity to focus upon, and provide his own recollection of, the contents of the statement at a point that was months, rather than years, after the alleged discussions.”
“He said she wouldn’t fuck off, so I had to finish her. He said, “It was fucking ages before she went quiet, it took her a long time to die.” “He said she wouldn’t fuck off, so I had to finish her. He said, “It was fucking ages before she went quiet, it took her a long time to die.”
“The evidence of Mr Dunne. Christopher Dunne provided a witness statement to the police on the 18th of December 1997 in which he said that while he and Mr Plummer were sharing a cell in Bedford Prison, in about June 1997, and whilst Mr Plummer was under the influence of cannabis, Mr Plummer confessed to the murder. Mr Plummer denied that he confessed to the murder. Mr Plummer says that Mr Dunne’s account of what he said to him, whilst they were sharing a cell together is untrue and was invented. You must first decide whether you are sure that Mr Plummer did say this to Mr Dunne, taking account of all the evidence which bears on this point, namely the evidence of Mr Dunne, the evidence of Ms Miller, formerly DC Branagan, the evidence of Mr Plummer and the evidence of how far information about the murder circulating amongst the public and amongst prisoners in Bedford Prison. In relation to Mr Dunne’s evidence, there is a further important consideration. This is that his evidence takes the form of a witness statement that he made on18th December 1997 , and which was read to you. He was not available to give evidence in the witness box because he has since died. The defence does not accept that Mr Dunne’s evidence is true, and would have wished to have cross-examined him, if he was still alive. You must decide what weight, if any, you give to the evidence of Mr Dunne, and when you’re doing so, you must bear in mind that this evidence has a number of limitations. First, although Mr Dunne signed a formal declaration at the beginning of the statement, that it was true and that he knew that he could be prosecuted if he deliberately put something into the statement that was false, his statement was not made under oath or affirmation. Secondly, if Mr Dunne had given evidence in court, he could’ve been cross-examined, and you do not know how Mr Dunne and Mr Dunne’s evidence would have stood up to that. There is a further relevant matter, you were told that Mr. Dunne had a number of convictions, these are summarised in the agreed facts at paragraph 69. Most of these were offences of violence, or driving offences, but they include offences of dishonesty. The defence say that these convictions make it more likely that Mr Dunne was not telling the truth in his statement. These convictions are something which you should take into account when evaluating Mr Dunn’s evidence, it is for you to decide how much weight to give them. Unless you are sure that Mr Plummer did say what Mr Dunne said in his statement that he said, you must taken no account of it at all. If, on the other hand, you are sure that Mr Plummer did say it, then you must go on to decide whether it was true. If you are sure it is true, then you can rely upon it. If you are not sure it is true, then you must ignore it altogether.”
“You see, in addition to confessing to Christopher Dunn, you confessed to your own mother, didn’t you?”