“31. You will note that the particulars of this offence refer to it having occurred on an occasion other than in count 1. You have already found, on my direction, the defendant not guilty on count 1. As I explained to you, count 1 related to a specific incident which occurred in the flat at [Hertfordshire] whilst [her brother] was in hospital. Again, as I explained at the time, that was not possible because they did not move to the [Hertfordshire] flat until well after [her brother] came out of hospital. You no longer have to consider counts 1 and 2. You could only convict on this count (Count 5) if you are sure that the offence took place, and that you are sure that it took place after29 April 2016 , when the defendant and his family moved to the flat in [Hertfordshire]. 32. I will give you further directions as to the use you can make of the evidence given by [C] in relation to the former counts 1 and 2 later in this document.”
“So you think there may be another three times?”
“Yes.” “That something had happened? You said that the other times were the same and they happened at the flat. So all the other times happened at the flat as well?”
“Yes.” “And where in the flat did the other times happen?”
“Probably in his bedroom, I can’t really remember.” “You can’t remember where. And you say that they were the same, but obviously you’ve described, you know, three different things that have happened.”
“I think they were like the same as like the first time, I can’t remember much.” “So you just remember him doing things that were similar to before?”
“Yes.” “But you can’t remember what?”
“Yes.” “Whether it was, excuse me, him touching your vagina, whether it was you putting your mouth on his penis or whether it was him putting his mouth on your vagina?”
“Yes, he was just doing similar stuff like that.”
“On reflection, it seems to me that no jury, properly directed, could properly convict on the basis that it happened in [Hertfordshire], given the evidence as to the timing. It is conceivable, I suppose, that the jury might conclude that [C] had made a mistake about the timing, but in the circumstances, when it has been tied so clearly to the February/March period when [her brother] was in hospital, it seems to me that the evidence is simply not strong enough and it - the properly convicted jury could not reach that conclusion. That does not of course mean to say that the jury could not be satisfied that an incident, as she described it, could not have happened again at a later occasion, and indeed Counts 5 and 6 I think of the indictment refer to causing to masturbate and causing to touch the vagina, occurring on other occasions, other than that on Count 1.”
“In her ABE interview [C] was quite clear that she was not saying that was the case, she was quite clear that she was describing an incident which happened in [Hertfordshire], in the flat in [Hertfordshire]. That is clear from the fact she said it was in [Hertfordshire], she said initially “I think”, but then she said, “No, nothing happened in London”, and she was obviously describing a one bedroom flat rather than a two bedroom flat, which was the flat in [London]. So that was clear what she was saying in her ABE, that this incident, which had been described as the first incident, happened in [Hertfordshire], in the flat in [Hertfordshire].”
“There is a perhaps complication in that it is no doubt open to the defence to deploy in support of undermining [C’s] credibility overall that she initially described a scenario which could not possibly have happened, i.e. [London] and [her brother’s] hospitalisation. That does not mean that the jury are considering that possibility, i.e. [the flat in London] during hospitalisation, or [the flat in London] at any time. There is, on the basis of the ABE, no evidence that any offence happened in [London] at all, indeed it was [C’s] evidence in her ABE that she didn't think it did, and the jury will be directed on that, quite firmly if necessary. That would not, in my judgment, prevent the defence from deploying it as material in support of undermining her credibility. In those circumstances perhaps the questioning of [BHB] as to the opportunity for it to have happened in [London] was unnecessary, but, in any event, his evidence on that is really immaterial, in that he can't really remember whether the kids, including [C], did visit [London] during the period of the hospitalisation. It is now wanted to, as it seems to me, double down on evidence that it wasn’t in [London] by getting his mother to give evidence, quite what evidence she's going to give I’m not entirely sure, but presumably to suggest that the kids weren't in [London], and I’m told that if that is done then the Crown will seek to undermine that. That would be going down a route which has no, in my judgment, potential possible relevance to the issues which this jury has to decide. They’re not going to be considering whether an offence occurred in [London], and it is not going to be open to the prosecution to suggest that an offence occurred in [London] during the hospitalisation period. As I say, there has been some exploration of that with [BHB] but, in my judgment, it would be wrong for there to be any other exploration at all of opportunities for it to happen in [London], or indeed what happened in [London] at all, and it would be wrong to seek to adduce from S…. when that is not an issue before the jury.”
“The direction about counts 1 and 2 (and perhaps 5 and 6) must make clear that the jury are no longer considering those counts. You have withdrawn them, as you have explained, because no jury could properly be sure of those counts on the evidence in the case. [He summarised this evidence, such as that of C and also BHB]….. The jury will ask what they are to do with that material? The answer is that the only significance of that material is in assessing [C’s] credibility. If 5 and 6 are before the jury then in addition that evidence is material to their consideration of whether 5 and 6 happened “similarly” to 1 and 2. Either way, they MUST NOT follow any line of reasoning that involves concluding that they are sure that cts 1 and 2 happened - that would be contrary to your direction and their verdict. You need somewhere to direct the jury that any consideration of [London] would be entirely speculative and wrong and they must not embark upon it. That should be explained sufficiently so as not to beg questions and invite speculation. It would be inappropriate for that to be the final direction - perhaps good character after it?”
“You can, therefore, use her evidence as to the acts she described in the “first” incident i.e. making her touch his penis and touching her vagina, in considering whether you are sure that similar acts occurred in relation to counts 5 and 6.”
“But the first part of the - excuse me - ABE interview was largely taken up by her saying to the officer what happened in what she termed the first incident. Now, as I told you in my legal directions, you’re not concerned with that first incident because those counts have been removed. But you are concerned with what she said, only to the extent, as I set out, in my legal directions that if what she said is inconsistent, or, as we know, couldn’t have happened in that way, then the defence are entitled to rely on that to try and undermine her credibility. And again, whether you think it does undermine her credibility is entirely a matter for you. But I summarised what she said in relation to the first incident in the written directions I gave you this morning. So I’m not going to go over again what she said about that first incident in the ABE interview.”
“So she gave evidence. Again, she was asked an awful lot of questions about counts 1 and 2, which we don’t need to go into, you can ignore all of that. She was asked questions about whether there was any opportunity for him to have committed any offences in [London], you don’t need to go into that because that isn’t a count which is on any indictment in front of you.”
“he was prevented from presenting his case in its best light”