"When my Lord says 851 days, if that turns out not to be on remand, does my Lord mean actually on remand or licence?"
"I remember one of them who was the shortest male in the group shouting 'Fuck it man let's go. Opps ain't on nothing'. The same male said words to the effect of 'I'm going to fuck him up'. The other males were talking as well. One of them said something like 'allow it, allow it. Leave it. Let's go'. I can't remember which male was saying that. Two of the other males were quieter and one other male seemed to be encouraging the shorter male by agreeing with what he was saying to go and do something to someone. More people were coming out of the club by this point and I was trying to keep an eye on the crowd as a whole, to keep everyone safe, including myself."
"Cases where a witness is unavailable (1) In criminal proceedings a statement not made in oral evidence in the proceedings is admissible as evidence of any matter stated if — (a) oral evidence given in the proceedings by the person who made the statement would be admissible as evidence of that matter, (b) the person who made the statement (the relevant person) is identified to the court’s satisfaction, and (c) any of the five conditions mentioned in subsection (2) is satisfied. (2) The conditions are — … (b) that the relevant person is unfit to be a witness because of his bodily or mental condition; …"
"The judge was right to find that a knife had (to the appellant's knowledge) been taken to the scene – he knew a knife had been taken, the knife from inside the nightclub to the street outside. This did not involve going behind the jury's verdict – the different verdicts for the appellant and Ahenkorah [a co-defendant convicted of manslaughter] are explicable by the difference in evidence as to their actions outside the nightclub. The judge took account of all relevant aggravating and mitigating features. Given the chase up and down the street this is not a case where the judge was required to make a discrete reduction because of the de minimis distance/time for which the knife had been carried. The judge initially (and wrongly) reduced the minimum term by 851 days for time spent on remand. This time had not been spent on remand. It had, save for 12 days, resulted from the appellant being recalled on licence. The judge was therefore right to adjust the sentence to correct this error. In doing so, he made an adjustment in the appellant's favour (by reducing the minimum term by a year to 24 days, before allowing for the 12 days on remand) to reflect that he had regarded the fact that the offence had been committed on licence as an aggravating factor. It is not arguable that the minimum term was manifestly excessive or wrong in principle."