"MISS DAVEY: In terms of dangerousness, your Honour, certainly the Crown, subject to your Honour’s comments, don’t invite any consideration of an indeterminate sentence. RECORDER COLLERY: No, I need to consider it. MISS DAVEY: Your Honour needs to consider it of course but --- RECORDER COLLERY: But – but I am not at the moment --- MISS DAVEY: No. RECORDER COLLERY: --- and one would hope that there’s nothing in Mr Bagnall’s mitigation that’s going to push me towards that but I’m not at the moment --- MISS DAVEY: No. RECORDER COLLERY: --- minded to go there."