“It was both of us really but I’m just saying it was him. If you’re going to do something, do it properly, eh Miss Allen? We stabbed him but I am pleading not guilty. Fuck that.”
“They’ve nicked both of us but it was him. I’m going not guilty. Fuck that.”
“It is Ms Harper’s case that she was unaware that Mr Cahill had a knife at the material time. Knowledge or ignorance that Mr Cahill had a particular weapon at the material time will constitute evidence relevant to your determination of whether you can be sure Ms Harper intentionally encouraged and/or assisted Brian Cahill to assault Owen Kerry unlawfully with intent either to kill Mr Kerry or to cause him really serious bodily injury.”
“Knowledge or ignorance that weapons generally or a particular weapon is carried by D1 will be evidence going to what the intention of D2 was, and may be irresistible evidence one way or the other, but it is evidence and no more.”
“We invited submissions on whether it was appropriate for the court to take into account the observations of the judge when sentencing in determining the factual basis for the conviction. In our view, the court should not do so. Its duty is to examine the matters before the jury and the jury’s verdict (including the findings of fact that would have been essential to reach such a verdict). Such an approach is consistent with the approach the court took in relation to observations made by judges in life sentence cases when it was their practice to make reports to the Home Secretary for the purposes of the determination of the tariff: see R v Jones[1998] 2 Cr App R 53 and R v Dillon[1997] 2 Cr App R 104 .”[1997] 2 Cr App R 104 .”