'Was that legitimate?', and you answer that question. It is not a matter for the defendant whether she thinks that was a legitimate reason within the Act. You set the standards for society. You twelve determine whether it was legitimate, and you can imagine many different cases where you might say yes. For instance, someone doing a PhD in child abuse may have images because it is part of their thesis on which they are doing. If they say that, you accept that is the reason, genuine research into this area, '