“1. Stabbing to the buttocks and thighs is a frequent means of punishment inflicted in a premeditated way intended to cause pain and injury without killing the victim. Because of the location of important blood vessels, it does sometimes kill. It is frequently seen in gang-related cases. You did this twice and your victims survived. These offences are to be seen as serious, premeditated knife crimes in the public street. 2. You also used a ‘BB’ gas-fired weapon twice to cause fear and injury [in] the context of criminal activity. You succeeded in causing both fear and injury using a realistic weapon. 3. When arrested, you were armed with a large kitchen knife. 4. You have involved in gangs from the age of 15, and by the time of these offences were 16 years old. 5. As the author of the pre-sentence report indicates, some of your explanations for your conduct are not true. 6. All of this justified the judge in finding you dangerous, and her decision not to impose an extended determinate sentence of detention was a proper one, but one which gave you substantial credit for your age and lack of previous convictions. 7. This series of serious offences by a dangerous young man plainly required a long sentence which would protect the public, given the decision to deal with the case by a determinate sentence. 8. The discounts for plea and age are not criticised in the grounds of appeal, correctly. 9. That being so, it is, in my judgment, not arguable that this overall sentence was manifestly excessive or wrong in principle.”