“I could be doing something like that to you”
“we can’t talk about the details”
“The next thing to observe, of course, is there are two defendants, Mr Miszczak and Ms Jones, both on trial and there are a number of counts on the indictment. Please remember to consider both of them separately, consider each count that they face separately and return separate verdicts in relation to both defendants and all of the counts. It is not a question of lumping them all together, we have different allegations and different allegations against different defendants and different roles said to be played in some of the counts where they are jointly charged. So it comes to this: your verdicts may be the same in respect of both defendants or they may be different. Your verdicts may be the same in relation to all the counts that a defendant faces or they may be different; they do [not] all have to be the same. It all depends whether the prosecution have made you sure of guilt in respect of a particular defendant on a particular count. So please remember to consider them separately as individuals and with the charges that I’ve summarised at point 4.” 32. This was a reference to a separate document which the judge had provided to the jury entitled: “A Guide to Jury deliberations – this is a brief reminder of some of the legal directions and DOES NOT replace the full directions given by the Judge.”
“4 We must consider the complainants separately, both Ds separately and every count separately and return separate verdicts on all counts… 15 Complaints to another. When ST/CT told someone else about what D did and that other person repeats the details of the complaint, this evidence is not independent of ST/CT; but we can consider the time that the complaint was made and the consistency/inconsistency of the complaints if we wish. 16 Expert evidence. This is evidence of opinion about matters outside our experience and knowledge. It is only part of the evidence. We can have regard to it but do not necessarily have to accept the evidence of either of the experts.” 33. As we shall see below, these written directions about the limited relevance of evidence of complaint, and about the approach to expert evidence, were expanded during the judge’s summing up. They are important because of the issues now raised about the judge’s treatment of Ms Pickett’s evidence. 34. The judge also gave clear directions as to the timing of the trial and the problems of delay. At page 16E he reiterated that the only thing that really mattered was, despite the delay, whether the jury was sure that what CT and ST said was true. He said: “But it comes down to this, does it not, that you decide whether the witness’ evidence of the essential events is reliable? Whatever the time, whether it was yesterday or 20 years ago, you decide whether what CT said or ST said in terms of the essential events is [that] reliable; are you sure of it? If you do have concerns do they affect just a small part of the evidence or do they affect the whole thing?”
“So within that statement there are the two aspects: firstly, she is trying to recall and saying in the statement what she was told and, secondly, the point she is not an eye witness to it but that is what she was being told in that period 2003 to late 2004 and she is giving a professional view. She did observe how CT was in counselling and her opinion is that the signs that she exhibited were consistent with someone who had been the subject of physical, sexual and emotional abuse, but that is as far as she can go and it is your task to really assess the prosecution’s allegations as to whether these allegations are proved so that you are sure.”