"Don't talk to me like that" and "
"Why did he make me do that?"
"I did not mean to do it. He should not have got it into my face"
"The second issue that I have to consider of course, that, even if I did not allow the prosecution application on the basis of propensity, but allowed it on the basis of attack upon character, the state of the law is that, once the evidence is admitted, then it would swing open the door for propensity, potentially, unless the court did not direct the jury about propensity. It seems to me, in fact, that if the evidence is admitted, the fairer way, on reflection would be to give a carefully crafted and properly weighted direction about propensity, making it plain to the jury that it's very much a secondary consideration in the case, and making it plain to them that this should not embark upon the impermissible reasoning, concluding that they can decide the case on propensity if all else fails. As a matter of common sense and justice, it must be the other way round... Now, I return to where I was earlier on. The defendant's propensity, on the record he has, never has been to arm himself, to commit serious offences of violence. It is however, a propensity to lose his temper under provocation or under pressure. If the jury are directed on that basis then it seems to me that they can properly take account of the evidence if it is admitted and would not then have a difficulty, either of going on to build into propensity, the propensity that is impermissible, namely to use knives to commit serious violence ..."
"You have heard evidence that the defendant also has previous convictions for offences of violence. The reason that you have done so is that the positive defence that he has advanced of necessity has involved an attack on the character of Junior Fuller by asserting, as he has, that it was Junior Fuller himself who was the sole aggressor and who produced and sought to attack and injure the defendant with a knife. In fairness in such circumstances it would have been wrong for you to be left in ignorance of the character of the man making those accusations. You are entitled to have regard to the defendant's own bad character when deciding what the truth is in this case. Whether and to what extent his previous character assists you in that respect is a matter solely for your judgment. Since it had been placed before you in that way a further issue for you to determine is whether the bad character of the defendant demonstrates that he has a propensity; that is a tendency, to lose his temper and commit offences involving the use of unlawful violence. The prosecution submit that if he does have such a propensity then it is more than mere coincidence that the evidence points to him acting in that way towards Junior Fuller and would make it more likely that he did behave as has been alleged when the violence began ..."
"The issue to which the propensity does relate may be expressed as follows: in the circumstances in which he found himself, whatever you find them to have been, what effect, if any, did the propensity have upon the conduct of the defendant? Did he seek to avoid confrontation regardless of the propensity? Or was it instrumental in prompting him to respond to them with unlawful violence? Whatever the reason for its admission, and upon whatever ground you are considering it, please bear in mind also that the purpose of bad character evidence is not to generate unfair prejudice towards a defendant and you must guard against that. Certain it is that the evidence of bad character should not be used to bolster a weak prosecution case ... "
"The prosecution's case is that he started fighting back immediately. That is something else the jury will have to consider. There is no evidence that the defendant went armed to this house. That is an issue that they may have to be revisited later on in the event of conviction. Equally, however, it is a valid possibility, the jury may think, that there are knives in pretty much every kitchen in the country and so either he could have armed himself with a knife there, or Mr Fuller could have, equally ... "
"There is no evidence that the defendant went armed to this house."
"That is an issue that may have to be revisited later on in the event of conviction."
"But it seems to me actually on analysis it may well be the case that they reach a verdict of that kind and simply cannot decide where the knife came from. Equally, it seems to me that the evidence as it stands is simply completely opaque on that topic."
"My own view, having thought about it overall, is that I will have to decide the issue myself on the evidence. I do not say anything for the moment, obviously all these things are open for discussion... But we will see what happens later on."