"I am not going to mention anything else, but I was concerned that the question of losing self-control might be an issue that has to go before them as an alternative. I have looked at it over the weekend and it appears to me you were quite right, it needs a trigger, you need evidence, but I have a suspicion there will be sufficient evidence to raise that matter and I just mention it at this stage... But if your Honour does think there is evidence then that would be an additional thing to go into the summing-up, even though I do not rely on it and do not intend to mention it..."
"THE JUDGE: Well, of course, I have not heard from the defendant as yet and I will have to take a final decision based upon the evidence and, of course, I will hear any submissions from counsel. LEADING COUNSEL: Yes, then we will find out what he says and then perhaps it will be easier for me to assess whether I can argue it. "
"Yes, I can perhaps put it in this way; it is not something that we will be suggesting on his evidence. There is not sufficient evidence from what he is going to be saying, as I understand it, to raise that matter specifically; we cannot do it."
"Well, having heard the evidence of Mr Martin I cannot see that the defence of lack of self-control has been raised; it seems to be very firmly on self-defence. LEADING COUNSEL: I agree. "
"I am and I believe I have to be, because clearly in his evidence he has not jumped the first hurdle, as it were -- THE JUDGE: No. LEADING COUNSEL: -- and in those circumstances no, it does not arise."
"54. Partial defence to murder: loss of control (1) Where a person ("
"... in shock and scared. I wanted to get out of the situation I was in."
"What happened after that it is clear that you lost your temper and you became aggressive... You caused his death not acting in self-defence but in retaliation."
"I note that using the old-fashioned word of provocation there was provocation from the hammer blow by Kyle Hand at the start of the serious violence between you."
"The aggravating factors, particularly that pertaining to the offence concerning your use of a knife on the evening of5th October 2015 , which is to be sentenced today, require me to move upwards from the starting point of 25 years."