“I am sorry to say that, just as water flows downhill, it is the natural inclination of this defendant, if he is to engage in commerce, to do so dishonestly.”
“(5) Subsection (6) applies if – (a) the Crown Court makes both a confiscation order and an order for the payment of compensation under section 130 of the Sentencing Act against the same person in the same proceedings, and (b) the court believes he will not have sufficient means to satisfy both the orders in full. (6) In such a case the court must direct that so much of the compensation as it specifies is to be paid out of any sums recovered under the confiscation order; and the amount it specifies must be the amount it believes will not be recoverable because of the insufficiency of the person’s means.”
“It is unlikely to be a coincidence that that figure is the sum of the agreed benefit and the agreed compensation. What had happened was that there had been a practical compromise. In the light of the history of the matter I did not feel inclined to stand out against that compromise, but I must confess to misgivings about it bearing in mind the misunderstanding that had arisen between counsel.”
“Ultimately I have decided that justice can be achieved on the basis of the figures that counsel have negotiated.”
“(n) Payment of confiscation and compensation in this case depends upon the sale of real property. All the way along Edward Davenport has been arguing that the sale of 33 Portland Place is problematic because of the unusual nature of the property. I understand that it is on the market now. There is other real property that needs to be sold as well. (o) If their debt is not paid HSBC will be entitled to appoint a receiver for the sale of 33 Portland Place. I think I was told what the precise arrangements were to be. The important thing is that in this case nothing has been cut and dried. Edward Davenport has only agreed matters in these criminal proceedings at a late stage. For some 4 years I have had a deep sense that moving matters along in the case has been a truly Sisyphean task, both before during and after the trial. So it is that we are where we are in July 2014. I do not know when 33 Portland Place will be sold or how long the losers will be kept out of their money. I do not know what it will fetch. I do not know how many circuits of a Grand National course still need to be run. The case is a mile away from that which was contemplated in Jawad, where compensation has been paid before the court makes any order or where it can be paid by the stroke of a pen so as to release funds held in an account.”
“10. The proceeds of sale are to be held by Malletts Solicitors and distributed, forthwith, as follows: a. Payment of monies due to HSBC Private Bank (Monaco) SA and the Receiver per Order of Sales J dated1 May 2014 . b. Payment of any fees and/or charges for which the prior consent of the SFO has been obtained in accordance with paragraph 9 above. c. Payment to Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunals Service (“HMCTS”) pursuant to the compensation order made by HHJ Testar on17 July 2014 . d. Payment to HMCTS pursuant to the confiscation order made by HHJ Testar on17 July 2014 . e. The balance of the sale proceeds (if any) after payment of those amounts due in paragraphs a-d above are to be held by Malletts Solicitors in their client account, subject to the terms of the Restraint Order, until further order of the Court.”
“To take the same proceeds twice over would not serve the legitimate aim of the legislation and, even if that were not so, would be disproportionate.”
“But once it is clear, as it now is, that disproportion must be avoided, it follows that the question of compensation might be relevant to that issue, if compensation means that money which is restored to the loser will be counted again in the POCA confiscation order. Therefore in principle it must be possible either to consider the two issues together or to have in mind, when considering the disproportion question, any compensation order which has been or is going to be made. Nevertheless, as we show below, ordinarily the concern of the judge will be less with an order for compensation than with whether actual restoration to the loser is assured.” 58. He went on to say this at paragraph 19: “What these enforcement provisions mean for compensation orders is that the making of the order is not the equivalent of payment or restoration to the loser. It remains uncertain whether such restoration will be made. In particular, especially where large sums are involved, many criminals may prefer serving time in prison in default to surrendering by way of payment of compensation the sums which they have obtained from the loser by their crime.”
“R v Waya requires the court to consider whether a POCA confiscation order is disproportionate. We are satisfied that it generally will be disproportionate if it will require the defendant to pay for a second time money which he has fully restored to the loser. If there is no additional benefit beyond that sum, any POCA confiscation order is likely to be disproportionate. If there is additional benefit, an order which double counts the sum which has been repaid is likely, to that extent, to be disproportionate and an order for the lesser sum which excludes the double counting ought generally to be the right order. But, for the reasons explained above, we do not agree that the mere fact that a compensation order is made for an outstanding sum due to the loser, and thus that that money may be restored, is enough to render disproportionate a POCA confiscation order which includes that sum. What will bring disproportion is the certainty of double payment. If it remains uncertain whether the loser will be paid, a POCA confiscation order which includes the sum in question will not ordinarily be disproportionate.”
“How should these principles be applied? It would be convenient if the statute were to provide for the court to have the power in an appropriate case to make a POCA confiscation order in the full sum and to couple with it an order that compensation in the relevant sum be paid to the loser out of it. That power is, however, not available except in the limited case of insufficient assets provided for by section 13(5) and (6) of POCA. However, much the same outcome can, we think, be achieved without great difficulty. The exact circumstances of different cases may vary. But generally if the defendant has control of his assets he ought to be able to make repayment in the knowledge that, once he proves he has done so, credit will be given for it against a POCA confiscation order. Repayment made through solicitors on notice to the Crown ought readily to be provable. If repayment has not been made before the day of the confiscation hearing, proof that his solicitors are in funds and willing to give an undertaking to repay on his behalf is likely to suffice, as would the existence of a bankers’ draft in favour of the loser. There may be other methods of establishing clearly that payment is guaranteed. In those cases where the defendant does not have control of the assets in question, similar principles ought to apply. If the assets are in the hands of the Crown after seizure he can request realisation and repayment either direct to the loser or via an intermediary such as a solicitor who can provide a guarantee of payment. If the assets are subject to a restraint order he can apply for a variation of it on terms that sufficient of them are released to a named and safe intermediary for the purpose of realisation and repayment to the loser. In most cases steps such as these ought to be initiated by or on behalf of the defendant before the day of the confiscation hearing, but there may be some where there is justification for making them on that day, perhaps where there is a genuine dispute about the figures which needs evidence and resolution by judicial ruling. There may in a very few cases be occasion for brief adjournment of a confiscation hearing for immediate arrangements for payment to be made. What a court should not entertain, because there is no need to do so, are expressions of well-meaning intentions on behalf of a defendant which are not backed by assurance of repayment. Still less is a court likely to be receptive to pleas to adjourn the confiscation hearing for the defendant to seek ways of making repayment.”