"I knew that one of the males had a knife as I saw one of them with it in his hands. However this knife was being passed backwards and forwards between the two males so I wasn't sure which one had it."
"... I bear in mind what is the principal mitigation in both of your cases, which is that you pleaded guilty at the first available opportunity. Particular credit is due to you Pay, because you not only pleaded guilty at the first available opportunity but you also pleaded guilty at the police station."
"1. The critical time for determining the reduction for a guilty plea is the first reasonable. opportunity for the defendant to have indicated a willingness to plead guilty. This opportunity will vary with a wide range of factors and the Court will need to make a judgement on the particular facts of the case before it. 2. The key principle is that the purpose of giving a reduction is to recognise the benefits that come from a guilty plea not only for those directly involved in the case in question but also in enabling Courts more quickly to deal with other outstanding cases. 3. This Annex seeks to help Courts to adopt a consistent approach by giving examples of circumstances where a determination will have to be made: (a) the first reasonable opportunity may be the first time that a defendant appears before the court and has the opportunity to plead guilty; (b) but the court may consider that it would be reasonable to have expected an indication of willingness even earlier, perhaps whilst under interview; Note: For a) and b) to apply, the Court will need to be satisfied that the defendant (and any legal adviser) would have had sufficient information about the allegations. (c) where an offence triable either way is committed to the Crown Court for trial and the defendant pleads guilty at the first hearing in that Court, the reduction will be less than if there had been an indication of a guilty plea given to the magistrates' court (recommended reduction of one third) but more than if the plea had been entered after a trial date had been set (recommended reduction of one quarter), and is likely to be in the region of 30%; (d) where an offence is triable only on indictment, it may well be that the first reasonable opportunity would have been during the police station stage; where that is not the case, the first reasonable opportunity is likely to be at the first hearing in the Crown Court ..."