“It is not necessarily any more unjust for the whole of that property jointly controlled to be treated as the individual defendant’s benefit than for money which has passed through a defendant’s hands to be treated as his benefit, even though that money is a much greater amount than his personal profit. Yet the applicants accepted that the latter situation is well established by the authorities.”
“This might…have been a proper disposal had there in fact been no evidence of the parties’ shares in the proceeds. But the judge’s finding, not challenged on appeal, was that the proceeds had been received jointly. That being so, each had received a payment or other reward in the full sum of£9600 and orders in that sum should have been made against each of them severally.”
“R v Porter …is not authority that the court has power to apportion liability between parties jointly liable, a procedure which would be contrary to principle and unauthorised by statute.”
“Once the corporate veil was pierced…the property in question was to be regarded as the joint property of those controlling the company. It was analogous to the situation where conspirators had put the proceeds of the fraud straight into their joint bank account. Each is then entitled to the full amount in the account. Each individual, in the statutory language, “obtains” the property jointly held.”
“…the questions are distinct and the answer given to one does not determine the answer to be given to another. The questions and answers should not be elided.”
“[35] From the 1986 Act onwards, the courts have been required to reinforce confiscation orders by the imposition of a term of imprisonment to be served in default of payment. But it has been recognised that a defendant may lack the means to pay a sum equal to the aggregate of the payments or rewards he has received…..It has also been recognised that it would be unjust to imprison a defendant for failure to pay a sum which he cannot pay. Thus provision has been made for assessing the means available to a defendant and, if that yields a figure smaller than that of his aggregate benefit, making a confiscation order in the former, not the latter, sum.” and: “[41] The answering of this third question is a very important stage in the procedure for making confiscation orders since, however great the payments a defendant may have received or the property he may have obtained, he cannot be ordered to pay a sum which it is beyond his means to pay.”
“I confess that before I had read and considered the case of May, I had shared that same intuitive response myself.”
“For the purposes of this Act, property is held by any person if he holds any interest in it.”
“In our judgment, this is convenient language to show that if someone holds, say, a 15% or 30% or 50% beneficial interest in property in which the legal title is held either by him or her or by somebody else, then that beneficial interest pro tanto is property which is caught by the language of the Act. It certainly does not mean, in our judgment, that he or she holds the whole beneficial interest in the property in question or that it should be regarded as being wholly his or her property.”
“This was prima facie money held by the parties jointly. On the presumption that equity is equality…this money was owned jointly. It would have been open to the judge…to proceed to make a specific finding that the husband’s more than 50% contribution towards that building society account represented, as to the appropriate amount, a gift caught by the Act. But he did not make any such finding…. The correct approach in a case of this type, where property is held in joint names, is for the court to start with the pirma face position as to where the beneficial interests lie…”