“Judge Walsh: It is implicit in the [jury] note that they are satisfied so that they are sure about the accuracy of identification. It seems to me that they must be directed that they are satisfied so that they are sure that there was exposure of the genitals. The fact that [B] did not see the genitals is a factor that they must bear in mind and consider and the question for them to consider is whether they are satisfied so that they are sure that the hand motions that they say they saw him perform were hand motions at a time when his genitals were exposed. It seems to me that they are entitled also, are they not, to take into account what view they form about count 1. Mr Leake: Yes. Well, perhaps Your Honour would remind them of course of it she only saw him – and her evidence in relation to that was that she looked into his eyes for one or two seconds. In relation to count 2 – Judge Walsh: Yes, but the point I am making is this; that if they were satisfied so that they were sure in respect of count 1, then his conduct, found by them to be conduct which he committed, is something that they can take into account in determining what he was doing on the second occasion. Mr Leake: Yes. Judge Walsh: But they must be satisfied so that they are sure that the genitals were exposed. Mr Leake: Yes…. ”
“… I am going to remind you of what the position is so far as count 2 is concerned. In order to convict of count 2 you would have to be satisfied that there was intentional exposure by the defendant of his genitals intending that someone, in this case the young complainant, would see them and be caused alarm or distress. So you would have to be satisfied, before you could convict of count 2, that there was an intentional and deliberate exposure of the genitals.”
“But the point was made by Mr Leake on behalf of the defendant during the course of his closing address that she had not seen his exposed genitals and that therefore there was doubt as to whether in fact the man who it was had his genitals exposed at that time. He might have been doing something other than exposing his genitals…. …[T]he point made by Mr Leake on behalf of the defendant during the course of his closing address [was] that she had not seen his exposed genitals and that therefore there was doubt as to whether in fact the man who it was had his genitals exposed at that time. He might have been doing something other than exposing his genitals. The Crown say using your common sense you can come to the conclusion that if it was the same man and he had been masturbating in the same spot on the first occasion when music was being played at that time, you can come to a common sense conclusion that exactly the same thing was happening on the second occasion because of the coincidence in time, location, the same person, music being played and the same hand motion being seen by the young girl. The Crown say you can come to the conclusion that the genitals were exposed on the same occasion. Whether you come to that conclusion is a matter entirely for you because it is your assessment of the evidence that counts in this particular case. ”
“We understand, and to a considerable extent sympathise with, the judge’s reasoning. It was no doubt the case that both the appellant and the wider community were likely to benefit if [the appellant] had been obliged to undergo a period of supervision and take the course proposed. Nevertheless it seems to us that the order is wrong in principle. A sentence of a community order, and all the more so one coupled with requirements which have a real impact on the offender’s liberty, is a form of punishment. It does not seem to us to be right that the appellant should receive a substantial further punishment in circumstances where he has already received what was in practice the maximum punishment by way of imprisonment which the law could have imposed.”
“In determining the restrictions on liberty to be imposed by a community order or any youth community order in respect of an offence, the court may have regard to any period for which the offender has been remanded in custody in connection with the offence or any other offence the charge for which was founded on the same facts or evidence.”
“Where an offender has spent a period of time in custody on remand, there will be occasions where a custodial sentence is warranted but the length of the sentence justified by the seriousness of the offence would mean that the offender would be released immediately. Under the present framework, it may be more appropriate to pass a community sentence since that will ensure supervision on release.”
“Where an offender has been kept on remand, one could take the view that this action was justified by the bail provisions and that the sentencer should not, therefore, feel obliged to adjust the terms of the community sentence. However, in principle, the Panel recommends that the court should seek to give credit for time spent on remand in all cases and should explain its reasons for not doing so when it considers either that this is not justified, would not be practical, or would not be in the best interests of the offender.”