“As I cannot remember having penetrative sex with Dad, I can only assume that we must have done, because there would be no other reason for us using the condom at these times as they were never part of our masturbation sessions …. I have no memory of my father inserting his penis inside my body but I do believe that we must have done because of the occasion with my first boyfriend when I knew all the sex stuff already ….”
“I declare that between the ages of 11-18 my father committed sexual intercourse with me. When my father managed to get me by myself I knew that it could or would lead to sexual intercourse …. My father would lick and rub my private parts in any part of the house which would then lead to going to their bedroom to have sexual intercourse. He would tell me to get into bed, he would remove his clothes / dressing gown and take a condom from the drawer next to his bed, he would then put it to one side until ready to use, he would then get in next to me and start rubbing and licking me again until he was aroused and erect, he would then put his condom on. He would always put some sort of cream/gel on my vagina (to stop him from hurting me when he had sex with me). He would then open my legs and climb on top, feel for my vagina and push his penis inside. I couldn’t move, but was told to put my arms around him and I just lay there looking up at the ceiling, feeling numb, uneasy and strange. After, Dad would put the condom full of sperm in the toilet to get rid of the evidence. The above happened at [family home C] in my parents’ bed. There are other times when my father and I were in bed but I cannot recall what happened at those times ….”
“Q. How often did sexual intercourse take place over those three years? A. I can only recall one time, it might have happened lots and lots of times, but I can only remember one particular time that was clear in my mind. Q. Tell us about that one time? A. I was at home one day and dad told me to get into bed and he took his dressing gown off and got in next to me, before that he got a condom out of the chest of drawers next to the bed, I lay on the bed and he started to fondle my breasts and licked them and started to rub my vagina and get, he was excited and, once he was erect, he then put a condom on and got on top of me and pushed his penis inside me, but he always used to put a jelly type liquid on, so it didn’t hurt when he went inside, so it wasn’t painful for me. Q. You said he always put a jelly type liquid on, when you say always, that suggests that it happened more than once? A. I feel it did, but I can’t recall any other time that it happened to me, apart from this one time, my memory is completely blocked, I can only remember this one time that it happened. Q. What makes you feel it happened more than once? A. Because, when I started to have boyfriends, I knew exactly what was happening before they did anything, I knew what was going to happen, as in inserting of the penis inside, so this is why I felt it happened, but I can’t recall any other time, apart from this one time.”
“Q. So in April, 2007 you could not remember it ever happening, in March, 2008 you could remember it happening often and today you can remember it happening once, which of those different accounts is true? A. I can only remember this particular one on this day, it probably happened lots of other times, but I can’t recall any other, apart from this particular one, which came in my life. Q. The truth is … that it never happened at all, is it not? A. That’s not true, it did happen, it’s in the statement, I remember it that one particular time very clear in my mind. … Q. ‘Between the ages of 11 and 18 my father committed sexual intercourse with me’, that means between 1979 and 1986 he was committing sexual intercourse with you, is that true? A. Yes, he was, yes, but I can only remember this certain time, this one particular sexual intercourse time, I can’t remember and recall any other time.”
“The next matter of law, Members of the Jury, previous inconsistent statements, that is something which has been hammered at you by the defence in the course of this case. There were a number of occasions (and you will recall Mr Edis, in the course of this morning, went through those inconsistencies), yes, there are some inconsistencies in the evidence, which both K and P gave, to what is contained in their original statements. One thing you must bear in mind is that giving evidence in a court of law is not some sort of memory test but, at the same time, the point the defence make is that you would expect some consistency between what a witness says in their statement to what a witness says when he comes to give evidence in court. In each case, Members of the Jury, you make take into account any inconsistency, which is proved to be an inconsistency and the explanation which the witness gives for it, in order to judge the reliability of that particular witness. That is the first thing you do. Secondly, you decide the extent and importance of that discrepancy, in the context of the issues which you have to resolve. In other words, if it is a discrepancy, for the sake of discrepancy and inconsistency, it matters not – really the issue you have to resolve whether this defendant perpetrated this abuse or not – then it is irrelevant, but on the other hand, if it has a bearing on that particular issue, then you have got to treat the evidence of that witness, on that particular point, with care; with considerable care. But, at the end of the day, if you come to the view that one of the two versions, or one of the three versions, whichever it may be, is something, which you believe to be the truth, coming from the witness, in those circumstances, Members of the Jury, you are not deprived of that evidence; you can act upon it and take it into account when you are deliberating in your jury room. So where there is inconsistency, treat it with care, if you accept one of the two versions, you can act upon it, whichever it is.”
“Then the second statement was put to her … which says that there were several occasions of sexual intercourse. She said, ‘That statement, when it was made, was true, one particular incident I can clearly remember.’”
“So the real question is, Members of the Jury, are these complaints truly independent of each other and, when you are considering that particular question, bear in mind please, the mere fact some discussion took place, or might have taken place, between the two complainants, or that they might have heard of the nature of the other’s complaint, does not automatically mean that the complainants cannot be regarded as independent of each other ….”