“The principal issue in his case is, of course, whether Mr Velagic is correct in identifying him as the boy, and can be relied upon to ascribe to Daniel Thomas the roles that he, Mr Velagic, describes him as playing. More of that later this afternoon, except to say, I suppose, that if you cannot be sure of that identification, in other words, if he was not or may not have been the small pale-skinned white boy on the phone, then the case against Daniel Thomas that he was, drops away against him on all three counts, which those who act for him invite you to consider, as well, as he is not proved to be a member of either the MDP or the FDA; that he was not at the Humming Bird, and therefore cannot have been party to any discussions which took place there; he was not on either of the buses going to the Windmill Park Estate, and he therefore cannot have been party to what the passengers on those buses were wearing, how they were wearing it, what they were carrying, and short of Mr Velagic’s evidence, not part of any attacking group. Therefore, it is argued on his behalf that he is not guilty of violent disorder, count 2, and being necessarily unaware of any plan to cause really serious injury on the estate, let alone agreeing to it taking place, then he is not guilty of count 3 as well.”
“You must be sure that the defendant whose case you are considering joined in the physical attack which resulted in the fatal injury sustained [by] Yasin Ramin [Abdirahman] in some form or directedothers to do so”
“If that identification is correct and you can be sure about it, the implication is that Daniel Thomas is directly involved in not only bringing on and shaping the attack that developed on Yasin Abdirahman, but joining in it, at least to the extent of going down Navigator Drive with the group that attacked Yasin Abdirahman and Abdullah Awhussein. By that route, therefore, argue the prosecution, he is guilty of murder or alternatively manslaughter, because he played a central and directing role in the attack [on] Yasin Abdirahman and Abdullah Awhussein, and is thus jointly responsible [with] others for causing Yasin Abdirahman’s death. Whether his liability, if you are sure about that, is for murder or for manslaughter will depend on your decision as to his awareness of the nature of the attack he directed, and his intention to cause injury thereby. If, of course, he is not responsible in that sense for Yasin Abdirahman’s death or in any other respect, he is not guilty of murder and manslaughter. Say the prosecution: if he is not, then he certainly is guilty of count 3, in orchestrating the raid on the Windmill Park Estate, and of count 2, in playing a part in it on the estate, as it developed. ”
“On the3rd September 2007 , I had decided to visit my brother. I caught a 207 bus at Ealing, whilst on this bus I saw a friend of mine with some other boys, I said to my friend I was going to my brother’s house. My friend asked me if I wanted to go to the Windmill Estate with him. I got off the bus with him just to see what was happening. I did not intend to take part in anything that might occur. I walked with my friend into the estate with the other boys in front of us. I remember we were right at the back, I was talking to my friend the whole time were walking. At one point I saw the boys at the front stop, I could see they were facing another group of boys from where I was standing, I could see two of the boys scuffling. I then noticed blood on their clothes. At this point I decided to run away with my friend. We ran out of the estate and initially waited for a bus. As we waited other boys came towards us so we moved further away. I eventually caught a bus to my brother’s. ”
“On4 September 2006 , Ramin Rahimi, together with Daniel Thomas and two other unidentified youths robbed two other youths of their mobile telephones. Daniel Thomas punched one of the victims in the chest. One of the unidentified youths pulled out a knife, which was brandished in front of the victims. On6 September 2007 , Ramin Rahimi and another youth robbed two other youths of a bicycle at knifepoint. Rahimi was not the person who produced the knife.”
“In criminal proceedings evidence of the defendant’s bad character is admissible if, but only if— (d) it is relevant to an important matter in issue between the defendant and the prosecution”
“The court must not admit evidence under subsection (1)(d) or (g) if, on an application by the defendant to exclude it, it appears to the court that the admission of the evidence would have such an adverse effect on the fairness of the proceedings that the court ought not to admit it.”
“For the purposes of section 101(1)(d) the matters in issue between the defendant and the prosecution include- (a) the question whether the defendant has a propensity to commit offences of the kind with which he is charged, except where his having such a propensity makes it no more likely that he is guilty of the offence…” (a) the question whether the defendant has a propensity to commit offences of the kind with which he is charged, except where his having such a propensity makes it no more likely that he is guilty of the offence…”
“Rahimi’s case is derived from his prepared statements, which indicate that his presence on the Windmill Park Estate that night was entirely accidental and unconnected with the MDP quarrel with the Grit Set. He just happened to see what was happening and ran away at the sight of blood. It begs a relevance to the fact that his findings of guilt indicate that he was party to two knife-point robberies, the second, three days after the events of 3 September, and the Crown’s invitation to examine this explanation and such evidence as there is of his presence on the estate, admissible solely against him, in the light of those convictions. Section 101 (1) (d) (inaudible) is conceded but subsection (3) is pleaded, favours the issue of whether the admission of the convictions is such that they would have such an adverse effect on the fairness of the proceedings that I ought to prevent it. I am not so persuaded, provided the basis of each finding of guilt is tailored to make it clear that in each incidence he was convicted on the basis of being party to the use of a knife by others, and not, in each incidence, the knife man himself. ”
“a person is guilty of violent disorder or affray only if he intends to use or threaten violence or is aware that his conduct may be violent or threaten violence”
“Yeah. That’s the one that was like, when they were coming towards us, he was on the end. The reason I recognised because he was short as well, like proper short. He was wearing a black top and he had a funny walk. It’s like he was limping or something. He was walking funny, and he was carrying a bottle, like a square bottle, and it was green.”
“He was wearing a black top. I can’t remember whether he had a bandana. I’m not sure, but I know his hood wasn’t fully on, like on the top of his head here. He was short, he was carrying a bottle. I think he had [the next word is inaudible], he might have had braids, I’m not sure, or it might have been just his hair was picky or what. I know he had quite long hair. “He had braids or his hair was picky, because you can get your hair cut like that now. Anyway, it looks like braids, could be that. He was short, he was quite built, he looked younger than the rest of them. That’s all I can remember. I can’t remember the face, nothing.”
“The fallacy of Mr Lynch’s submission is demonstrated by the qualitative difference between identification evidence and what the judge called “evidence of description”
“I am satisfied that there is evidence specific to the applicant Carlos Cyrus, namely his size in comparison with others in the group. His appearance as manifest from the CCTV evidence of the bus journey to the estate, which combined with the jury’s assessment of Awhussein’s description of how events started, that would permit the jury safely to conclude that the person who began the attack on Awhussein, as described by him, and to be viewed in conjunction with the other material available to the jury was Carlos Cyrus. As such, that material is sufficient in my judgment as to permit a jury properly directed, to convict Carlos Cyrus not only of violent disorder, but of joint responsibility for the deceased’s murder. Accordingly, the case against him will continue on counts 1, 2 and 3.”
“What mitigates your offending is your age in comparison with your co-defendants, and over and above the minimum term set to reflect a young age anyhow, so that there is permissible double counting in your favour. The fact that, as I said to Sheldon John-Lewis, I have no evidential basis on which to be sure that you wielded a knife that night, as opposed to participating in an attack in which, to your knowledge, a knife was used, is reflected in the conclusion which I come to, applicable to you, that your intention was not to kill but to cause really serious injury. I take into account the evidence I heard in the trial that even before conviction you started to make significant progress in custody, so demonstrating maturity in accepting and succeeding to a marked degree, that evidence demonstrated, the educational opportunities and training which have been offered to you.” 78. Mr Tansey QC submits that the minimum term of 14 years was too long. His principal submission is that Williams did not play a major role in the planning of the revenge march to the estate and the fatal attack. That role was assumed by John-Lewis. Mr Tansey submits that the Recorder did not sufficiently differentiate between Williams and John-Lewis in terms of their respective ages and roles. John-Lewis was 17 at the time of the offence, 3 years and 8 months older than Williams. As regards role, the Recorder noted that John-Lewis’s “forceful personality and charisma within the gang was fully exercised that night”