“If I were unfettered, upon authority to come, I would consider on the information I presently have, that the determinate sentence would certainly not exceed the determinate sentence ultimately held to be appropriate in the case of Martin and is very likely – I am afraid I can say no more than that – but very likely to be significantly less. That is the starting point before the discount that I have already indicated for pleas of guilty.”
“But I make it plain of course I am bound to be bound by any subsequent observations by the Court of Appeal and the Lord Chief Justice……you understand that of course.”
“It may be, for example, that he [the Lord Chief Justice] will take the view that Martin should be revised upwards, I simply do not know and nor do I know when he is going to deliver his judgment.”
“Obviously, any defendant pleading guilty at this stage, not knowing what the Lord Chief Justice will ultimately say, does take a course of some courage…”
“....it does occur to me that I could give, without a term of years…a general indication of the likely level of sentence consequent upon a plea of guilty ‘outwith’ the decision of the Lord Chief Justice in Barot. I do not know whether that would be helpful or not, but inevitably if the Lord Chief Justice took a different view I would be bound by that different view. That is the problem.”
“(1) No judgment after verdict in any trial by jury in any court shall be stayed or reversed by reason – (a) that the provisions of this Act about…the selection of jurors by ballot have not been complied with… (2) Subsection 1(a) above shall not apply to any irregularity if objection is taken at, or as soon as practicable after, the time it occurred, and the irregularity is nor corrected.”
“A challenge to a juror in any court shall be made after his name has been drawn by ballot…and before he is sworn.”