"We consider that for those involved at the lowest level, the starting point should be 3 years before taking into account any plea of guilty and personal mitigation. This reflects the view of this court in KuangVan Nguyen[2007] EWCA Crim 9 . For those who set up and control individual operations, the organisers, the starting point should be 6 – 7 years depending upon the quantity of cannabis involved, again before taking into account a plea of guilty and personal mitigation: see Jupp[2002] Cr. App. R. (S) 8 and Liljerous and Alderson [2004] 2Cr App (R)(S) 81 at page 486. The starting point for managers will be somewhere between 3 and 7 years depending on the level of their involvement and the value of the cannabis being produced. Severer sentences may be appropriate for those who control a larger number or network of such operations."