".... but this was large-scale commercial criminal activity. It makes common sense to draw the inference that Hogg and Rolls were further up the hierarchy than Roach and Carolan. For the reasons set out in the prosecution document Response to Basis of Plea, I do not sentence Hogg and Rolls on their basis of plea, although there is nothing to gainsay paragraph 3 of Hogg's basis and paragraph 4 of Rolls' basis. The prosecution allege that 50 kilograms of cocaine was involved on the basis of the bags and the quantity of cutting materials found in the factory and elsewhere. Suffice it to say the quantity of cocaine was massive. Hogg and Rolls ran the factory where the two cocaine presses were operated and where the cocaine was cut and packaged." 15. ".... your basis of plea is accepted save with this exception: 'I only assisted in the preparation on two occasions'. I put it in this way on the evidence: that you assisted on at least two occasions. You have made good progress in prison, but as far as this matter is concerned you were a knowing and willing member of the team. You will go to prison for eight years." 16. ".... you will go to prison for five years, all concurrent, and concurrent to the other sentence that I passed on the conspiracy. Normally firearms offences attract consecutive sentences, but each of these offences attracts a minimum sentence of five years and if these sentences were consecutive the overall sentence would be excessive. I have noted that there is no evidence or suggestion that these weapons were used or taken from the places where they were found."
"The prosecution maintain that both Hogg and Rolls are at the head of the organisation of this conspiracy. Both were connected with and seen to go to the garage at Lordship Lane. This is where the cutting process of the drugs occurred on a large scale."
".... 4. The gun, silencer and ammunition did not belong to Rolls. They had been supplied to him the night before the police found them. He was storing them. ...."
".... one can speculate about it but I do not think it can really be gainsaid, can it? COUNSEL FOR THE CROWN: We do not know. We do not know when the gun was supplied to him."
"The third, and most difficult, situation arises when the Crown may lack the evidence positively to dispute the defendant's account. In many cases an issue raised by the defence is outside the knowledge of the prosecution. The prosecution's position may well be that they had no evidence to contradict the defence assertions. That does not mean that the truth of matters outside their own knowledge should be agreed. In these circumstances, particularly if the facts relied on by the defendant arise from his personal knowledge and depend on his own account of the facts, the Crown should not normally agree the defendant's account unless it is supported by other material. There is, therefore, an important distinction between assertions about the facts which the Crown is prepared to agree, and its possible agreement to facts about which, in truth, the prosecution is ignorant. Neither the prosecution nor the judge is bound to agree facts merely because, in the word currently in vogue, the prosecution cannot 'gainsay' the defendant's account. Again, the court should be notified at the outset in writing of the points in issue and the Crown's responses. We need not address those cases where the Crown occupies a position that straddle two, or even all three, of these alternatives."
"45. .... As it seems to us, generally speaking, those responsible for organising the importation of Class A drugs into this country will attract somewhat higher sentences than those responsible, as Whiteway was, for organising distribution in this country. The difference, however, is not likely to be very great...."