"If one likens this fraud to a business, level one of the players could be described as board level for the entire operation [we interpose to say that none of the level one players were prosecuted]. Level two: in the case of Mr A.K. [the appellant], we say he was the managing director of this particular team and F.B. also participated on level two. Level three are staff members, those members of the team who operated on some significant level of trust and/or control. And level four, again continuing the business analogy, could be described as hourly paid."
"I have listened to everything that has been so well said, and been most impressed by Dr Gandhi; but that fact is, having considered all the circumstances, I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that justice cannot be done here, to you or anybody else involved, or the public, by a hospital order. You have been taking part in various kinds of frauds continually since you came to this country, it seems, not being deterred, I have to say, by prison sentences. I understand the mental illness which you are suffering, but it did not prevent you from carrying on as an important member of this conspiracy, for a year and a half to two years, in an organisational role. And, having sent all but one of the other people who have been caught with this, having dealt with them myself -- and the other one went to prison as well -- for terms of two years and upwards, it is clear that I could not do justice in this case by passing a sentence without restriction order which might allow you to be at large within a matter of months. This was a conspiracy which, in all, netted about£800,000 . It may have been described as 'not sophisticated', but it clearly needed a lot of organisation; opening of bank accounts, which were fraudulent, and then collecting a large number of cards and cheque books, and then hitting the stores on a particular account, all on the same day, getting as much property as you could, and then claiming refunds for cash. As I said to all the others, it took advantage of a system of convenience for stores and customers. It was operating throughout the length and breadth of this island, and I am satisfied that everyone, certainly yourself, was aware of how big a system you were taking part in. And not only was that amount of money obtained, but everything was set for it to continue, for as long as people could continue it without being arrested; with 60 active accounts at the time of the arrests and 20 more waiting to be developed for the purpose of the fraud. I take into account that you have admitted this, although you are telling your doctor that, in fact, you are not guilty. I take the view, having heard from both sides, that you were indeed in an important organisational role, and at the top level of the people who have been caught. You were the one who operated from your own address, and another false address, a number of accounts. You had the contact numbers for the banks to ring up and speak to whoever they thought was the genuine customer; and you had all the details to answer their questions in a notebook which you were clearly handling and using. And you were renting the storage units for the clothing that was bought and was going to be taken back. This has been a difficult decision. I quite understand that it would be better, from your point of view, if you were allowed to go back to hospital in the care of Dr Gandhi; but yours is not the only point of view I am able to take. I have been told that this is, sadly, not a curable disease but can only, at best, be controlled. In all the circumstances, taking into account what happened to the others, and your own situation, and everything I have heard or seen about the case, there will be a sentence of five years' imprisonment on you."