“My recollection is quite clear; on a day which I cannot precisely pin-point, but which was before pleas to any particular counts had been indicated, my clerk said to me that counsel wanted to know if I would give an indication. I told him, in no uncertain terms, I did not give indications and that I would not, adding that counsel were experienced and quite capable of working things out for themselves. I understand that this is what my clerk told them. At no time did I authorise Mr Turner to approach counsel and convey any of the information he is said to have imparted. That is my position and I do not propose to accept the invitation put forward by the defence if they want to do anything about it.”
“I cannot account for what Mr Turner may have said without my authority. It is worthy of note that no complaint was made by learned counsel, on15 October 2004 , that I had reneged on an indication and passed a sentence significantly different from what they maintain they had been led to believe. I would, respectfully, add that it is not my habit to give indications as to sentence, except formally and with the participation of prosecuting counsel. It was never my intention, in this case, to indicate to anyone that I had in mind a total sentence, embracing the whole of the indictment, and certainly not for such a thing to be communicated informally to defence counsel alone. However, reflecting carefully on what I can recall having taken place almost two years ago, I cannot now say, with absolute certainty, that I did not say to Mr Turner something which he may have misconstrued, although I am unable to think what it might have been”
“A first principle of criminal law is that justice is done in public, for all to see and hear. By this standard a meeting in the judge's room is anomalous: the essence, and indeed the purpose, being that neither the defendant nor the jury nor the public are there to hear what is going on. Undeniably, there are circumstances where the public must be excluded. Equally, the jury cannot always be kept in court throughout. The withdrawal of the proceedings into private, without even the defendant being there, is another matter. It is true, as this Court stated in Turner(1970) 54 Cr App R 352 at 360, that there must be freedom of access between counsel and the judge when there are matters calling for communications or discussions of such a nature that counsel cannot in the interest of his client mention them in open court. Criminal trials are so various that a list of situations where an approach to the judge is permissible would only mislead; but it must be clear that communications should never take place unless there is no alternative. Apart from the question of principle, seeing the judge in private creates risks of more than one kind, as the present case has shown. The need to solve an immediate practical problem may combine with the more relaxed atmosphere of the private room to blur the formal outlines of the trial. Again, if the object of withdrawing the case from open court is to maintain a degree of confidence, as it plainly must be, there is room for misunderstanding about how far the confidence is to extend; and, in particular, there is a risk that counsel and solicitors for the other parties may hear something said to the judge which they would rather not hear, putting them into a state of conflict between their duties to their clients, and their obligation to maintain the confidentiality of the private room. The absence of the defendant is also a potential source of trouble. He has to learn what the judge has said at second hand, and may afterwards complain (rightly or no) that he was not given an accurate account. Equally, he cannot hear what his counsel has said to the judge, and hence cannot intervene to correct a misstatement or an excess of authority: a factor which may not only be a source of unfairness to the defendant, but which may also deprive the prosecution of the opportunity to contend that admissions made in open court in the presence of the client and not repudiated by him may be taken to have been made with his authority." In Warth (1991) 12 Cr App (S) 680, Lord Lane made clear “First, once again, no visits to the judge except in the most exceptional circumstances; certainly not to discuss any question of plea. Secondly, if there must be such a visit and if the judge is thought to have made some sort of promise or indication about punishment, counsel should make a note of it then and there and ask the judge to approve the note and initial the note before counsel goes to see his client and makes any mention or suggestion of a promise by the learned judge. It is only in that way that counsel can protect himself and make sure that he understands plainly what it is the judge has said, and make sure that his recollection will not be at fault when he goes to his client. He will then both protect himself and his client from any misunderstandings, misapprehensions or indeed from wishful thinking.”
“There must be freedom of access between advocate and judge. Any discussion must, however, be between the judge and the advocates on both sides. If counsel is instructed by a solicitor who is in court, he too should be allowed to attend the discussion. This freedom of access is important because there may be matters calling for communication or discussion of such a nature that the advocate cannot, in his client's interest, mention them in open court, e.g. the advocate, by way of mitigation, may wish to tell the judge that the accused has not got long to live because he is suffering maybe from cancer of which he is and should remain ignorant. Again, the advocates on both sides may wish to discuss with the judge whether it would be proper, in a particular case, for the prosecution to accept a plea to a lesser offence. It is imperative that, so far as possible, justice must be administered in open court. Advocates should therefore, only ask to see the judge when it is felt to be really necessary. The judge must be careful only to treat such communications as private where, in fairness to the accused, this is necessary. .. Where any such discussion on sentence has taken place, the advocate for the defence should disclose it to the accused, and subject to the exception of those matters of which he should remain ignorant, such as cancer of which he is unaware, inform him of what took place.”
“ [counsel in the case] quite rightly considered that what transpired in the judge's chambers, or part of it at least, ought to be said in open court in the interests of his client. Counsel has a high duty to the court but it does not override his concurrent duty to his client. It would have been wrong in our view if [counsel in the case] had not sought to make not only plain, but public what ought not to have been said at all in the privacy of the judge's chambers.”
“It has long been one of the essential requirements of our system of justice that it should not only be done but those that see what is done should respect what is done and understand that it is done as a matter of justice and for no other reason. Anyone who knew what had gone on in the course of this trial must have realised that the principle had not been borne in mind. It had certainly not been applied, and so it comes about that whereas an immediate sentence of imprisonment for 21 months would have been a perfectly proper one, the manner of its imposition was, it seems to this Court, improper. The circumstances which led up to its being passed were so irregular that it cannot be supported. To redress the situation thus created, rather than in the interests of the defendant who has no real claim to clemency, we feel obliged, in order to preserve the good face of justice, to quash the sentence of 21 months' imprisonment and to substitute a suspended sentence.”