“Q. At any time when you were with Feston or after you were with Feston, did he tell you that he was HIV positive? A. No. … A. Then my doctor came round and told me I was HIV positive. Q. How did that make you feel? A. I wanted to die.”
“Q. Did they tell you anything about HIV? Did you know anything about Aids? A. No. Q. Either from those lessons at school or from what you have heard on the news? A. Erm well, they told us about it at school but I didn’t really get to grips with what it was about … Q. And were you aware that there is an Aids problem in Africa? A. Not really, no. … Q. What did you know about him before you agreed to have sex with him? A. Not much … Q. Did you realise you were taking a risk of becoming pregnant. A. Yeah. Q. Were you prepared to take that risk? A. Yeah. Q. Did you realise you were taking a risk of catching a disease? A. Yeah. Q. And were you prepared to take that risk? … A. Yes, I was, yeah.”
“Q. When you were having sex with Feston did you think at any time there was a risk of you catching a serious sexually transmitted disease? A. No. If I’d have known that I wouldn’t have went with him. Q. You said a little bit about how you feel, having found out that you have HIV. A. Yeah. Q. Have you done anything as a result of it? A. I was self-harming. Q. You were self-harming. What do you mean by that? A. I was cutting my arms. Q. Do you know why you did that? A. Because it took the anger and pain. I couldn’t exactly go down the road and punch Feston.”
“Q. You also realise that by having unprotected sex you risk catching an infection? A. Yes … Q. … That too is a risk that you took. A. Yes. Q. That risk included the risk of contracting HIV didn’t it? A. Yes, but I didn’t think about it at the moment. … Q. That means at the time you had unprotected sex? A. Yes. … Q. But there was no discussion about HIV or tests or anything before you had sex? A. Yes. Q. You agree that there was no discussion? A. Yes.”
“Q. Did you have any conversations with Feston after that [the first occasion of sexual intercourse]? A. Yes. I says to him, joking, joking, I said, ‘I hope you haven’t got any diseases’. Q. And what did he say? A. He said, ‘Don’t be stupid’. … Q. What was the upshot of the conversations you had after he stopped using condoms? A. Just generally like before, about the children in Africa and people living with HIV and Aids, the effect it has on people and how we can help and just general, general discussions.”
“Q. Did you ask him if he had an HIV test before having unprotected sex with him? A. No. Q. Why was that? A. Because if somebody’s got HIV then as an individual I would expect them to tell me the same way I would tell them. … Q. Did it not occur to you to ask him if he had ever had a test for HIV? A. No. Q. But you were actually on the subject of talking about HIV in Africa. Would it have been easy for you to ask him if he … A. No, it would have been easier for him to tell me. That’s what I think. He had … I didn’t have the responsibility to ask him. He had the responsibility to tell me. … Q. So if you had known that he was HIV positive you would have continued to have a sexual relationship with him. A. No. I would have went to the hospital and got advice before I done anything. That’s what I would have done. I would have seeked medical advice to see what I needed to do to protect myself and what I needed to do to protect him and what I needed to do if anything to protect my son. … Q. Had you had unprotected sexual intercourse after being diagnosed HIV positive? A. No, protected sex.”
“Q. Did you think that when you had unprotected sex … that there was a risk of you catching a serious sexually related disease? A. No, never.”
“… did not willingly consent to the risk of suffering that infection. Note that I use the phrase ‘to the risk of suffering that infection’ and not merely just ‘to suffering it’. That is an important point which Mr Roberts rightly drew to your attention in his speech to you this morning. He put it this way, it is whether she consented to that risk, not consented to being given the disease which is, as he put it graphically, a mile away from the former. That is right, but note that I use the word ‘willingly’ in the phrase ‘willingly consent’, and I did that to highlight that the sort of consent I am talking about means consciously.”
“… As a matter of policy the courts have decided that the criminal law does not concern itself with these activities, provided that they do not go too far. It also seems plain that as the general social appreciation of the proper role of the state in regulating the lives of individuals changes with the passage of time, so we shall expect to find that the assumptions of the criminal justice system about what types of conduct are properly excluded from its scope, and what is meant by ‘going too far’ will not remain constant.”