"... the basis of his case is - and he tells you now - that he was frightened and that he used the knife and may well have caused the injury in order to protect himself against those three men when they effectively fought back, but they were overpowering him."
"'I realised' he said, 'that I wouldn't get control of the situation. They were trying to overpower me - one in front, one behind. Somebody grabbed my right arm, and I decided to get away. I used both hands to push Yogesh away. The knife was still in my hand'. Then he said, 'There wasn't time to drop the knife. People were on me'. Well, you have seen the video. That is arrant rubbish! He did have time to drop the knife. What he says is, when I asked him the question, that he did not think about dropping the knife."
"MR LONG: Your Honour, may I mention something? It is this: your Honour directed the Jury in relation to self-defence and I believe that your Honour said that the Defendant said he was frightened and used the knife because he was frightened, and he may well have used the knife to protect himself because he was worried he would be caused injury by the three males in the shop. JUDGE MOSS: Yes. Did I say that? Well, if I did, what is the problem? MR LONG: I believe you did. JUDGE MOSS: What is the problem? MR LONG: The defence on behalf of Mr O'Sullivan is that he -- at no time did he use the knife to cause injury. He did not know that he had caused injury. JUDGE MOSS: I said that more than once. MR LONG: Your Honour did, but it was just that during the caution, when your Honour dealt with the issue of self-defence, your Honour said that, and in my submission it may have -- I only raise it in case your Honour feels it is appropriate to mention it to the Jury. It may have caused them to think that the Defendant's case is that he was -- he properly used the knife in order to ward off the attack by Yogesh Warren and the other two in the shop. JUDGE MOSS: His case is that he thought he was about to be overpowered and in those circumstances I have left the defence of self-defence to the Jury. If they come to the conclusion that he was not about to be overpowered and his belief was not an honest one, the only other explanation is that he might have done it accidentally, which is what I am saying to them."
"MR LONG: Your Honour, yes, but he said that when he thought he was being overpowered that he pushed him away with his hand, and he did not think about the knife being in his hand. That was the evidence that he gave. At no time did he say that he was justified in using the knife to defend himself. That is the point which I raise, your Honour. JUDGE MOSS: Do you think that they should be brought back, Mr Wyeth? PROS: No, I do not, with respect. I think it is apparent that your Honour was simply catering for the fact that he used that expression that he was frightened. That was another alternative. JUDGE MOSS: I have left it to the Jury on what I think is a proper and fair basis -- if they come to the conclusion that this was not an accident, they have got to be left with the proper alternative that in some way the Defendant may have thought that because he was about to be overpowered, he may have used the knife to defend himself. I cannot think that that is wrong. I have given the Defendant the benefit of both options, instead of limiting it to just the one. So, I do not think I am going to get them back. I think I have been as fair as I possibly can."
"Therefore, it has got to be proved that this was done deliberately and not accidentally. If it is an accident, the Defendant cannot be guilty. The Crown must prove that it was done deliberately. That is the use of the word 'maliciously'."
"'Unlawfully' - that is the issue in this case. It possibly is not the only issue, because you have got to be satisfied it was done deliberately, but unlawfully means that the Crown have got to prove that it was not done in lawful self-defence. I am going to give you a direction about that soon."
"I am going to go on to the question of self-defence, which I said I would, because it is necessary to give you a direction about it. I know that many of you, when you heard the case opened must have thought to yourselves, 'How can an armed robber, on the staff side of the counter of a take-away chicken shop, armed with a knife, obviously intent upon robbing the shop by his own admission -- how can he avail himself of the defence of self-defence?'."
"So, you need to ask yourselves 'Who was the aggressor here? Was the Defendant genuinely thinking that he needed to use the knife because he was under attack?'"
"If your conclusion is that he is the aggressor and that this claim that he was about to be overpowered is just nonsense, then he cannot avail himself of the defence of self-defence."
"At one point in cross-examination he was suggesting that Yogesh could have impaled himself on the knife. I do not think he used the word 'impale', but he was saying that Yogesh came forward at him. Well, that goes to the question of whether the wound was done deliberately, or possibly accidentally, but it is something that he suggested himself. You are going to have to ask yourselves whether there is any truth in that, or whether it is something he is saying now to try and explain away that which is otherwise unexplainable. Although he was reluctant to concede that he had caused the injury, in the end he effectively said, 'I can't argue that I did, but I didn't see the knife go through his arm. I had no idea that I'd done it, and I don't remember it happening'."
"Well, that is his case, members of the Jury. He does not accept that he stabbed Yogesh deliberately, and says that the only reason he was holding the knife in the way that he did was because he felt that he was about to be, himself, overpowered and assaulted. That is the real issue that you have got to concentrate your minds on."
"I think the prejudicial effect is going to be such that it would be impossible thereafter for him to have any sort of fair trial, even though he probably does not deserve one, but having said that to allow the jury to hear the circumstances of that conviction, of which we only have brief details, I think would be unfair."
"I am sorry if I upset him. It was an unwise comment and I entirely withdraw it."