“In this statement I wish to detail my dealings with solicitor Mike Mackey and his firm Burton Copeland Solicitors, Manchester. Burtons are presently representing my brother Peter Hamlett who, as I understand, is presently charged with two attempt armed robberies as a direct result of the evidence I have previously statemented…. On 16th July or June 1988 I was sentenced at Bolton Crown Court to a ten and four year sentence to run concurrently in respect of two offences of robbery. Initially, leading up to trial I was represented by Mr Mackey for both matters. Whilst on remand and without Mr Mackey’s knowledge, I assisted the police in the recovery of a quantity of firearms and a lollypop stick that had been used in a few robberies involving Peter Hamlett, Paul Duffy, Andy Vassal and a lad called Glen, a lad called Kingsley and Dave Gorton. At that time Peter Hamlett owed me£1,000 that I’d lent him previously. He ended up being arrested and interviewed about the robberies that were connected to the firearms and lollypop stick that I’d put the police onto. When he got out I was asking him for my money back…. I was interviewed by the police over a few days during which they questioned me about numerous armed robberies over a two-year period. The way the questioning was going I started to review my life and the mess I was in. I even started to think that Mike Hulme was talking to the police. Prior to my arrest at Cadishead I’d made a sub conscious decision to stop doing armed robberies. This was not at the front of my mind and I began to consider my situation and felt that it would be best for me to make a clean break and to admit to the police everything I had ever done criminally. By doing this I thought, at the time, that I may get a reduction in sentence, albeit I accept that I’m looking at an automatic life sentence. Having served a life sentence I would never again have been allowed to contact my criminal associates many of whom were family members. Thinking a bit deeper I realised that over the years I’d been used by Peter Hamlett and others and had always been put forward as the front man, usually with a gun in my hand. However, I do accept totally that I committed each robbery willingly, because of the lifestyle it gave me. I was eventually remanded in custody to Strangeways and started to think of the way to approach the matter….”
“Lally was first registered as an Informant on the27th April 1990 by Detective Chief Inspector Gardner, …. The first recorded payment to Lally was on the6th August 1990 for an amount of£2,500.00 . The second recorded payment was on the11th October 1990 for an amount of£20.00 , the third and final recorded payment was on the3rd January 1991 for an amount of£20.00 . At the time these payments were made, the current Informant Handling Procedures were not in place. …there is no other supporting documentation regarding Lally’s involvement as an informant.” …there is no other supporting documentation regarding Lally’s involvement as an informant.”
“On the9th August 1990 Raymond Lally was granted Home Leave for family reasons. He failed to return and was re-arrested on the15th March 1991 .”
“No I came out on Home Leave, and I was away for two years, I was on my toes for two years, and I come out first time for six months and then times I was, that’s what it is, it you get into Trevor Gardner, Crime Squad. There is others what he asked me about I had to put over to him cause. “ In a later debrief interview “…. Then it come to Peter, Dave Gorton, they brought me on a bank job and there was Alan and I think of the other name now, I give these names before… to, Trevor Gardner, who come in when I was going to get well when I was on a robbery for Blackpool and he shown me some photographs and I picked out Alan I don’t know his second name a scouse lad, Alan, Gary, Gary the scouse lad as well I can’t think of the second names, they was on a bank job with me Peter er and Dave Gorton…. Later, “no, Trevor Gardner knows who they was cause he asked me to get the photos out and I picked them out because I wasn’t sure of their names, the second names. They was on the Hyde bank job with Peter. That was Peter, Dave Gorton, Gary, Alan, and I think I am not a 100% but I think Alan McCartney was on that one as well.”
“After sentence at Bolton, I went to Strangeways, and remained there for 12 months; I was in fact with Peter Hamlett, David Gorton and Shaun Flannagan. They themselves had been remanded by this stage following investigation by the police and with the assistance of my information. The lads suspected that there was a ‘grass’ and although they did not implicate me in this, it was a stressful time for me. I was then allocated to Garth, and whilst I was there I then asked to see the Police, and the second officer, whose name I cannot now recall, came to see me. I wanted to know why nothing had been mentioned to the judge at the time of my sentence and I was also considering an appeal and wanted to know if they could be of any assistance. He was accompanied by a second officer, whose name I cannot now recall. The officers said that they couldn’t comment about the judge not being told about the assistance I had provided. They asked me if I was prepared to give evidence against Peter Hamlett, Dave Gorton and Shaun Flannagan who were awaiting trial on bank robberies and other robberies. I told them that I was not prepared to assist to that extent. However, I did provide information about drugs and alcohol going into the prison via prison officers, about a gun that was in the prison. I do know that the prison was searched a couple of times as a result of the officers contacting the prison authority. The officers came to see me again, this time the second officer but accompanied by a new officer whom I recall had white hair. I got the impression that he was a senior officer. He was again asking me if I was prepared to give evidence and in fact become a supergrass. At this stage there were all sorts of rumours flying around me and I was getting worried. The second officer with white hair, came to see me again, in fact I saw him in the security area of the prison, he said he knew the security officers, and he told me that he would be able to introduce me to the Solicitor who represented Lenny Pilot, who I knew had been a supergrass. This white haired officer in fact took me out of the prison and they took me to a police station in Lancashire and I met this Solicitor. In fact it was arranged that Philomena would be at present at this meeting. I don’t know which police station I was taken to but I was left in a room alone with Philomena and we had the opportunity of talking together, and then the police returned with the Solicitor. He explained the role of a supergrass, I said that I would think about it, and I was returned to Garth. The rumours were still flying around the prison, and a Security Governor saw me, and I was moved to the block. After a couple of days I asked to go back on the wing. The white haired officer who was with a young officer again saw me, and I asked to be moved but they said that they couldn’t assist me. That was the last time I ever saw him. Basically I was blanked by a lot of people after that because it got around that I had been seeing officers in prison. I was transferred to Kirkham in 1991/2 because of the Strangeways riots. There was no space and therefore a lot of us were reallocated to Cat D. At Kirkham I was visited by the probation officer that told me that my son had been in an accident and I was to be allowed compassionate leave. I saw my son, there was nothing wrong with him, but Trevor Gardner had been in touch with Phil prior to me getting out and asked Phil to ask me if I would meet him on the service station on my return to Kirkham. Trevor had apparently arranged the leave with his contacts in the prison and probation. I met Trevor Gardner, I was late, and he asked me to follow him to another police station, I don’t know which one now, but I went upstairs. I was with Phil at the time and he wanted me to admit to a Post Office robbery and the Rochdale robbery. He was trying to persuade me to admit these as prison right off’s rather than be gate arrested. Micky Wallace had been arrested and in fact admitted these offences. I told Trevor Gardner that I would think about it. I was at this stage late returning to the prison, and I knew that if I were late I would be moved back to Garth. Trevor Gardner offered to ring the Kirkham for me, but I knew that would only fly round the prison, when I got to the gates I just turned round and drove home. I was at large for six months. A police officer got in touch with Phil and gave Phil his house number, and I contacted him. He said that we would not arrest me and that he wanted information on Peter Hamlett. I got into his car, and he drove towards Oldham, and we talked about Peter and his associates and what they had done. I was obviously still not happy about not having a “text” in Bolton and he said that was not down to him but to the other officers. At this stage the officer gave me as alias of Arthur, and said that if I ever wanted to contact him to use that name. I was subsequently arrested by the Serious Crime Squad at 8 Edmonton Road, Newton Heath. Phil was pregnant with Portia at the time; she was born on the16th June 1993 . I was taken to Longsight Police Station but transferred to Oldham where I am visited by Trevor Gardner and another officer who was concerned about Peter Hamlett accompanied him and he was seeking further information. He also wanted me to admit to the Post Office and builders yard in Rochdale. I told him that I was expecting a visit from Phil and he arranged that I had an open visit with Phil.”
“He (a Defendant) has to prove nothing in the case, least of all his innocence, and I shall come back to that when we consider the question of what these Defendants said or rather did not say when they were interviewed by the Police and, indeed, the whole question of there being evidence [them giving evidence] in the case, because as you know two of them elected not to. I shall deal with that when I come to review the case against each Defendant, but bear at the forefront of your mind this cardinal principle, the Prosecution must prove guilt.”
“Of course he does not have to offer an explanation and he does not have to prove anything, as I have said, but those matters which he puts before you for you to consider as to why Mr Lally should make a false allegation against him.”
“He in cross-examination said that he did not tell anyone about this threat. He said “I was not brought up like that. I try and sort things out myself.”
“Well, certainly he cannot be criticised or have it held against him that he did not tell the Police about his relationship with Mr Lally for the reasons I have already explained, but he has put forward this defence of duress and also he was asked by the Prosecution in the first interview after he was arrested what he was doing at Cadishead and he elected not to tell them. It is a matter for you whether you think that it was reasonable for him to act on his solicitor’s advice in those circumstances. I have already dealt with how you should approach this question. Is this something, this defence of duress and the fact that he has been forced to Cadishead which he could have told the Police and of course if it was true it would…completely exonerate him…part…that is something he could have told the Police at the outset and if he did not, why did he not? The Prosecution invite you to say that the reason he did not is because he had not thought it up as a defence at that time…and that he has only thought about it in the interval. Well, members of the jury, that is a matter for you to decide. If you think it helps you in assessing Mr Hulme’s credibility, then you may take it into account against him but as I said with Mr Hamlett, it does not involve coming to a conclusion that because he chose not to answer questions, therefore he must be guilty and his defence must be dishonest. It does not necessarily follow. It is a factor you can take into account. Well, you will obviously take into account in this case the submissions that were made by Mr Horgan in this context.”
“Well no, members of the jury, the only thing that you might have thought possibly that Mr Beddow could have told the Police in interview because again he made a no comment interview, the only thing he could have told you was about when he first met Mr Lally because he said that he had not met Mr Lally until some considerable time after his alleged involvement in these offences. Well, that is something which you can ask yourselves whether he could have said that a the time he was interviewed. I would suggest to you that you should attach very little weight if any weight to that at all. Certainly so far as his assertions about what Mr Lally had been doing and how he had been behaving again, as with others, that only goes to the question as to what might be a motive for |Mr Lally to make up…defence that he could put forward before you in the witness box, so I would advise you to concentrate on whether Mr Lally is telling the truth and whether there is any support for what Mr Lally has said in the telephone calls that are set out in the schedule which relates to the offence with which his is involved, and in that context you will bear in mind the submissions made to you by Mr Shorrock that they do not show a full picture,….”
“The core of this case, as has been emphasised right from the outset, is whether or not you can accept Mr Lally’s evidence as being truthful, because the prosecution case is founded upon his evidence”
“Raymond Francis Lally. You will not, I imagine, ever have come across anyone like him before. Not a good word has been said about him in this case and there is nothing, you may think, that has emerged to his credit. His motive for helping the police would appear to be self-serving rather than public-spirited. That is his desire to get the lowest length of sentence for his misdeeds, and yet it is principally on that evidence that the prosecution asks you to rely in support of its case against each of these defendants. How then should you approach an assessment of his evidence? Well, you saw and heard him for a week in the witness box under close questioning, and you will therefore have been able to take your time in reaching your own assessment of him. It may be that you have already discussed it amongst yourselves, if you believe what he has told you then you may act upon it, but I give you this warning. Mr Lally is an accomplice who may have his own agenda, over and above the desire to get a reduction in his sentence. You may remember something Mr Price said yesterday, what do you know of the mind of a hardened criminal? Now that is not to say that someone who is an accomplice and gives evidence against his fellow offenders is incapable of telling the truth, but you do have to bear in mind the possible agenda which may be a hidden agenda. In the circumstances of this case that is a very good reason why it is sensible that you should look to see if there is any evidence in the case independent of Mr Lally which tends to support the truth of what he has said. The prosecution point principally but not solely to the telephone evidence as providing such support. It is certainly capable of doing so, but whether or not it does so in relation to the guilt of a defendant is a matter for you. So my direction to you is that you should think long and hard before accepting what he says without such support. You might agree with the submissions of defence Counsel that it would not be safe to do otherwise. However, in the end it is your assessment that counts, and if you feel notwithstanding what I have said that you can rely on it, then of course you will do so.”
“As it seems to this Court, there is an obvious explanation as to why the jury reached different verdicts on different counts. It is, as it seems to us, of significance that the three counts on which the Appellant was acquitted by the jury – Counts 1,2 and 6 – were the counts, and the only counts, in relation to which M gave evidence. It follows, in our judgment, that it was open to the jury to conclude that, although they were sure that guilt was established in relation to Counts 3,4 and 5, about which M did not give evidence, they were not sure, in the light of the evidence which they had heard from her, that guilt was proved in relation to those counts. It is perhaps not without significance that, as appears a page 6D of the transcript of the summing-up, the defence, perfectly properly, relied upon the evidence of M as casting doubt on the evidence of the girl in relation to those matters about which she have evidence. There is, in any event, as it seems to us, a difficulty with Mr Higginson’s submission in relation to whether there is any inconsistency at all. All it seems to us, there is no logical inconsistency in the verdicts returned by the jury, and unless there is a logical inconsistency, the question of whether or not the jury’s verdicts can sensibly be explained does not generally arise. There have recently been a number of appeals to the Court based on allegedly inconsistent verdicts, and it is perhaps therefore worth emphasising that it is axiomatic that, generally speaking, logical inconsistency is an essential prerequisite for success on this ground: See Durante(1972) 56 Cr.App.R. 708 , at page 714,and Warner unreported, Court of Appeal, Criminal Division, transcript dated17th February 1997 . There are, of course, exceptional cases of which Cilgram (1994) Crim.L.R. 861 provides an example, where a verdict may be quashed because, although there is no logical inconsistency, the particular facts and circumstances of the case render the verdict unsafe. However, it is noted that in Cilgram this Court, differently constituted, expressly rejected the submission that, where a complainant’s credibility is in issue and the evidence is uncorroborated, ,guilty verdicts must be regarded as unsafe because the jury also returned not guilty verdicts in relation to some of the complainant’s allegations. As was pointed out by Evans LJ, giving the judgment of the Court in Warner, see transcript page 15F, such a conclusion would be contrary to the proposition that juries should generally be directed to give separate consideration to each count.”
“You have repeatedly and rightly been told that you have to consider the case against each defendant separately. They are all charged with the same offence or the same offences, because as you know it is split into three periods, but they are each entitled to separate consideration, and I just repeat what Counsel have told you in their case. You must look at the evidence in relation to each case separately, and in due course you will be asked to bring in a separate verdict in relation to each defendant. One of the question that has been posed to you by the Crown in this case is first of all why should Mr Lally identify people as being involved in the conspiracy who were in fact not, when if that is right he knows perfectly well who was involved with him. Why should he identify correctly one, two or three members of the conspiracy but miss-identify others? Well, those are questions that you will have to ask yourselves. It is suggested on behalf of the Crown, for example, that if you are satisfied that Mr Hulme or Mr Kelso were guilty of conspiracy because they were caught, as it were, red handed at Cadishead, therefore he has been truthful about them, he is likely to be truthful about the others. Well, for the reason that I have explained a short while ago, that does not necessarily follow. The other side of that coin of course is this: that you have been invited in different ways by different Counsel to reject the evidence of Mr Lally against their particular client for a variety of reasons which we will look at in due course. If you were to come to the conclusion that Mr Lally had been lying to you about a particular defendant, then you would be in a position, would you not, of being seriously worried as to whether he had told you the truth about any of the Defendants I suppose it is, to use an analogy, one which I do not think has been used by any Counsel…things, I suppose all of you have made card houses in your time, and if you take some of the cards from the bottom…or half-way up, it is likely that the rest of the house would fall down. You will have to think whether that applies, so that if you are satisfied that you cannot believe Mr Lally in relation to one defendant, then what weight can you attach in relation to the others? You may not get into that frame of mind. You may simply say “Well, we in considering the evidence against a particular defendant, we cannot be sure about it. Mr Lally might have been telling us the truth about…but we cannot be absolutely sure. We think he may have a motive in relation to a particular defendant for bringing him in.”
“Members of the jury, in considering the evidence and in coming to your decision, as a matter of common sense and justice you will no doubt see why you have to deal with each of these defendants separately. Your duty is to consider the case of each defendant separately. The evidence is not the same in the case of all of them and they are entitled to separate consideration by you. It may be, and I will have a lot to say about Solomon, that if you are not satisfied about Solomon in the case of one of these defendants that you will think it not right to be satisfied about him in respect of any one of the others. It may be unreal to think that you could believe him in respect of one defendant and not in respect of the others, but that is something that you and you alone can decide, having heard the evidence and applying my direction in law to it.”
“We take the view that the learned judge had formed in his own mind the proposition that it really was the case you either convict all on Solomon’s evidence or you convict none. The judge having formed that view the submissions which learned counsel have made on behalf of the Appellants, and to which we have referred, are of the highest importance. It seems to us, when you come to consider Solomon, that you cannot as it were compartmentalise his evidence. The jury were saying “We cannot believe him for sure whether he is telling the truth about Willis”, and in saying that it must necessarily follow that they could not, in our view, accept for certainty that he was telling the truth in the case of the others. The fact that all the evidence about Willis’s alibi caused them to pause and have doubt about Willis and therefore acquit him, cannot make Solomon’s evidence in other respects acceptable so that they could convict the two appellants. In those circumstances we have reached the view that these verdicts are not safe and are not satisfactory. And the convictions must be quashed.”
“It did not follow that because the jury must have disbelieved a witness or rejected his or her evidence with the result that it acquitted on one count, it was necessarily acting irrationally to rely on the evidence of the same witness to convict an another count. The Court had to be very careful not to usurp the role of the jury who had heard the witnesses and considered the matter long and hard.”
“Whenever a suspect disputes an identification, an identification parade should be held if the suspect consents unless paragraph 3. 2.4 or 2.7 or 2.10 apply,”
“…bearing in mind this is not a statute and of the need to give the sub-paragraph a sensible and purposive meaning, we have concluded that the right to an identification parade must arise not only where there is ,as rarely occurs, an actual dispute, but also to cases where such a dispute might reasonably be anticipated. Clearly, where a witness has purported to name or otherwise identify a suspect,D.2.3 must apply. But we consider it also applies where a witness has indicated he or she would be able to identify the offender or there is a reasonable chance of him or her doing so.”
“This is a case where you have heard necessarily from Mr Lally about the whole of the case as he describes it. Each of the 19 robberies in which he was involved altogether, and you heard him cross-examined altogether. What I propose to do is to look at Mr Lally’s evidence in the round in general terms to begin with and remind you of what he said and of the questions that were put to him so that you have a general picture of him first of all. Then what I propose to do is in the way that Counsel have, to go through each of the robberies that are alleged, and I am going to do it the other way around to Counsel. I am going to deal with the evidence that you heard of the eyewitnesses. In nearly every case…of the witnesses were giving their statements to the police if not on the same day, very shortly afterwards, and no-one has suggested that any of those witnesses were doing other than their best to help the police catch the robbers. That is why they have been called the respectable witnesses, and you will when I go through that evidence, I am sure, take into account the difficulties which were outlined to you by Mr Marks in his closing address. It is for you to say whether what the prosecution were doing was calling evidence before you and then asking you to disregard it. It is a matter of common sense, is it not, that people will have a different view of the same incident because they will have people and the observation from different angles for different periods of time, and so someone who is observing something from behind the safety of their armoured vehicle may be better at taking in what is going on before them than someone outside the vehicle confronted by a loaded shot-gun. Obviously the distance away that people are and the circumstances in which they come to make their observations are all relevant. You have to pick your way through that evidence and you have to contrast it with what Mr Lally says, because as you by now know, the defence are saying not simply that Mr Lally is someone who cannot be believed on his oath because of the sort of person that he is, but he cannot be believed on his oath because his account of each of these offences and who was involved in them is contradicted by a good deal of the evidence in relation to each offence, So I shall go through the witnesses at the scene and then look at what Mr Lally says about it, so that…to contrast their evidence with his evidence and see to what extent the two accounts tally, to what extent they differ, and you will have to decide whether the differences are as a result of Mr Lally deliberately lying to you about who was involved or whether he is in the same position as witnesses who have come forward and are likely not to be 100% or anywhere near that in the accuracy of their recollection. Of course it is not suggested that Mr Lally is mistaken about his identification of any of the defendants. He is either lying about it or he is telling you the truth about it, but as to the detail of precisely how the offences were carried out there is, you may think, room if he is telling the truth on his part for making genuine mistakes, so that is something that you will have to go through and that is what I will go through with you in summary form, and I shall not go over too long of those offences when we have already had a detailed analysis of the evidence, as I am sure that the submissions of Counsel in relation to that evidence are fresh in your mind, and then when I have done that I will give you a summary of what each defendant’s case is individually, and when I have done that you can then go to consider your verdict.”