"I would have to say that someone who started lighting fires at the age of nine, had a further pronounced period of lighting fires between the ages of 11 and 13 and now has resorted to fire setting again when he felt that he was not being paid enough attention is liable to be a continued risk of setting further first at any time in the future when he feels frustrated. I see from the reports that he has been noted to have very considerable problems with temper and anger control in the past and I would have to say that I would see him as being a very considerable risk in the future of setting further fires. I do not think that this is amenable to treatment since this is not being driven by any mental illness. I can only raise my own concerns that Mr Chapman presents a very considerable danger to the public for the foreseeable future."
"In terms of future fire setting I would concur with probation officer, Margaret Mason's report and Dr Fegetter's report that there is a risk that he will re-offend by setting fires. Whether this amounts to a risk of serious harm is I believe up to the Court to decide. The risk of future fire setting is closely linked with his personality; episodes of low mood, perceived hostility and criticism, anxiety and resentment are times when the risk of setting a fire would be higher."
"He exhibits a significant degree of mental instability which places him at substantial risk of committing similar offences. Whilst living in the community he represents a considerable risk to the safety of others. It is not possible at this time to predict when he will cease to present a substantial risk to the safety of others."
"On balance I think, therefore, that Jamie Chapman appears to be moving in the right direction and the risks appear to have reduced since his start of the current sentence. It is, however, clear that the improvement has only been maintained for a relatively short period and that it would be unsafe for Jamie Chapman to return to the community at the present time.
"For the purpose of this addendum, I have been asked by counsel to consider a hypothetical situation that Jamie Chapman be made subject of a long determinate sentence of say ten years, and whether or not this would provide adequate public protection. For the sake of this hypothetical situation, I would consider Jamie Chapman to spend a period of approximately three to four years in custody."
"As mentioned in the body of my report, I am of the view that Jamie Chapman appears to be moving in the right direction as far as risks of further fire setting are concerned and he requires help in developing both the practical and emotional skills for survival in the community and testing him out in increasingly stressful situations to help him develop an appropriate range of ways of coping with his feelings. Should the current progress be maintained for a period of three to four years, whilst it is impossible to be certain, it is in my view likely that the level of risk would be appropriate for Jamie Chapman to return to the community. If during that period Jamie Chapman does not improve and indeed sets another fire, the option would remain open to the authorities to charge Jamie Chapman with those offences."
"Subject to sections 3(2) and 4(2) of that Act [theCrime (Sentences) Act 1997 ] the custodial sentence shall be -- (a) for such term (not exceeding the permitted maximum) as in the opinion of the court is commensurate with the seriousness of the offence, or the combination of the offence and one or more offences associated with it;...."
"For present purposes I am content to assume that the proportionality of the sentence to the seriousness of the crime is the leading common law principle: see Ashworth, Sentencing and Criminal Justice , 2nd ed. (1995), ch. 4."
"(2) Subject to sections 3(2) and 4(2) of that Act the custodial sentence shall be --
"This section applies where a court passes a custodial sentence other than one fixed by law or falling to be imposed undersection 2(2) of the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 ."
"A custodial sentence for an indeterminate period shall be regarded for the purposes of subsections (2) and (3) above as a custodial sentence for a term longer than any actual term."
"When the following conditions are satisfied, a sentence of life imprisonment is in our opinion justified: (1) where the offence or offences are in themselves grave enough to require a very long sentence; (2) where it appears from the nature of the offences or from the defendant's history that he is a person of unstable character likely to commit such offences in the future; and (3) where if the offences are committed the consequences to others may be specially injurious, as in the case of sexual offences or crimes of violence."
"In our judgment the learned judge was taking an unnecessarily narrow view of the circumstances in which a discretionary life sentence can be imposed. It appears to this Court that the conditions may be put under two heads. The first is that the offender should have been convicted of a very serious offence. If he (or she) has not, then there can be no question of imposing a life sentence. But the second condition is that there should be good grounds for believing that the offender may remain a serious danger to the public for a period which cannot be reliably estimated at the date of sentence."