“The names are relevant to make sense of the supplier attestations. I struggle to see what, without the names, [Temu] could do with the attestation notices at all. I have seen one and I cannot see what can be done with it if one does not have the names.”
“however, this process is complicated by the Claimants’ designation of the names of the suppliers that attended interviews in November and December 2023 as Outer Confidentiality Ring Information”
“we don’t understand the basis on which he says that the outer ring is necessary, when [in his skeleton] he’s very clearly saying that Whaleco’s external legal and economic advisers could conduct the analysis envisaged in [Mr Ji’s statement]”
“in order to interrogate the systems, we do need the internal lawyers at Temu, who are members of the confidentiality ring, to be able to deal with this material. It would severely hamper if not prevent us from undertaking the necessary analysis if they were not within the ring.”
“As regards confidentiality, in Temu’s skeleton argument, it was suggested that the names could be given an “Inner Ring” confidentiality protection (i.e. effectively external counsel and experts). Today, Mr Holmes KC admitted that that is an error in his skeleton argument. It seems to me that this is correct. When one looks at the underlying evidence that I have referred to from Mr Ji, it is clear that the people within the “Inner Ring” will not be able to undertake the sort of interrogation of the Temu website needed. I agree that confidentiality should be preserved and direct that the names should be disclosed on the basis of “Outer Ring” confidentiality, pursuant to paragraph 3.2 of the Confidentiality Order. As regards protection for Shein, the whole point of the “Outer Ring” of confidentiality is to protect confidential information with it only being given (outside external counsel and experts) to certain named individuals at the respective clients who themselves have a legal background. Shein has suggested in its evidence that Temu has breached confidentiality in the past, but this evidence does not relate to any breach of the Confidentiality Order (this understanding was later confirmed by Ms Demetriou). In the circumstances of the present application, and having regard to the use that needs to be made of the disclosed names, it seems to me that “Outer Ring” confidentiality is the only practical option.”