"District Judge Williams […] Now, I don't know who drafted the application [ to set aside ] and it's not for me to, to get involved in that, but the reality is that, based on that application, it doesn't get anywhere close to giving me sufficient information, justification or reasoning as to why the Claimant has failed to comply with, a) the first order, whenever that was, b) the order that I do know about which is 27 September, what steps it took to try to comply with 27 September, I don't even yet know the full picture of that, and why, therefore, it has failed to comply with the Unless Order. I, I simply can't see how the application can succeed. And conceivably the result of the 29 November order is that the 7 days have come and gone and the Claimant hasn't complied with an Unless Order which means, as the order says, the claim and defence to counterclaim is automatically struck out. So, I think the Claimant's in the territory of making an application for relief from sanctions. Mr Cook: Yes, Sir. District Judge Williams: But I don't think you're in a position to do that today. Mr Cook: Not in a position to do that today, no, Sir, for the simple reason there'd be a lack of evidence -- District Judge Williams: Yeah, yeah. Mr Cook: To support that, available to support that application. District Judge Williams: Well, I'm not sure that we can take it any further than that, can we? Mr Cook: No, Sir."