“MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: Mr Newman, I have attempted in the five hour [reading time] estimate to understand this case and in that period I was barely able to read let alone to digest all of the material. I am firmly of the view that an argument on these papers that the proceedings should be struck out as being an abuse is really beyond the reach of sustained argument. It can only be done if yet more material about the Zurich decision in particular is provided and in my view it is a waste of the parties’ time and money and the court time. What these parties ought to have, after the decade of dispute, is a merits-based trial. I do not believe they have had one yet. What I am proposing to do is to allow the action to proceed, set the timetable for the trial date … and preserve, with proper evidence, the right of the defendants to argue that any of the previous proceedings have issue estopped the claimants as opposed to abuse. That is what I think should happen. MR NEWMAN: That is going to make the application I intend to make before your Lordship that these proceedings should be struck out for abuse of process somewhat problematical. There are perhaps two ways of proceeding. One is I could stand here for a day and seek to persuade your Lordship that your Lordship is wrong in your Lordship’s initial view; the other is for your Lordship to go straight to case management, giving me the opportunity to appeal your Lordship’s decision that this is an unsustainable application and see if I can persuade the Court of Appeal that your Lordship is wrong. I am in your Lordship’s hands as to which way your Lordship wants to go. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: I do not intend to force you to try and persuade me to the contrary. It is a pointless exercise. MR NEWMAN: I understand. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: It is not sustainable in my view without yet more evidence. I cannot stop you going to the Court of Appeal, if your clients wish. In my view, it would waste more time on procedural issues as opposed to merits-based issues … . I propose, as I have said, to set in the CMC today a timetable for this trial … . MR NEWMAN: I wonder if it would be possible if your Lordship could rise and we could have a few minutes to digest what your Lordship has said and perhaps come back with something to take the matter forward. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: Remember two things … . First I said I was going expressly to preserve … any right based on issue estoppel. That seems to me to be perfectly proper to plead and you should not be prejudiced by this decision from raising that at the trial. Second, if we are going to have a debate about the Zurich and Liechtenstein cases, the trial judge is going to have to have expert evidence in law on both of those. I have to say that, having read the Zurich judgment and read it again, I find it, as an English common lawyer, completely incomprehensible and this is not helped by the fact that both parties in their various arguments claim benefits of various parts of that judgment, which makes it completely incomprehensible. What is clear, however, as I discern it, is that the Zurich judgment did not decide on the issue as presently pleaded, as I understand it …. As I understand the thrust of the case [it is that], despite the lack of experience of Swiss lawyers as regards trusts, the judges could have taken on board and applied the appropriate judicial trust concepts. …. That, I understand, is the main platform for your application for an abuse in reality. Given the fact that those matters have not been determined or, if they have, not being determined on issue estoppel basis, whilst the Swiss forum might be able to, and I do not see the claimants necessarily accept that that is a correct argument, which then throws the whole Zurich judgment into dispute for present purposes, the natural forum for these arguments is plainly these courts. I am concerned the [family], who is continuing to tear itself apart over these disputes, which have now gone on for decades and, as I said on the first hearing when a strike out was raised, the parties, I think, really ought to take an opportunity to have their day in court. …. MR NEWMAN: … If you want, I can give your Lordship 15 minutes and tell you what our case is, but frankly I do not think it is going to make any difference at all to your Lordship’s decision. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: No. These proceedings started in April 2010, the present proceedings. To say that they have meandered along is seriously to understate it. I will give you as long as you like for parties to attempt to agree a timetable for the trial. …What is the estimate, still four weeks? MR NEWMAN: I believe so, yes. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: I think you ought to make it five to six weeks in view of the fact that I am leaving open argument about the various decisions. The only other outstanding piece of information is what happened in the Liechtenstein court on 28 November. MR NEWMAN: We still have not had judgment on that. We are still awaiting judgment from the Constitutional Court of Liechtenstein. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: Okay. Does anybody else want to make any observations on what I have said? Very well. Shall I give you until 11:15 by the only working clock in the court. If you need more time, send a message to me. (Adjourned for a short time) MR NEWMAN: May it please your Lordship, we have had an opportunity to have a discussion regarding going forward. We are there or nearly there as far as agreeing some directions to go down to trial. But we thought it might be appropriate to deal with those after the two outstanding applications before your Lordship. One is our application for permission to appeal your Lordship’s decision in respect of the strike out. The other is [Forester’s] application for permission to amend his Particulars of Claim, … which is an application which still has to be made and determined today. But subject to that, once those have been factored in, the … directions are agreed. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: How can you raise the question of permission to appeal when you have not yet been told why I have not made the decision. MR NEWMAN: I cannot. If your Lordship is going to be giving a formal judgment, then I shall obviously have to wait for that. MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: Of course I am. Everyone is entitled to know my views, or why I am not going to make the order that you want me to make. MR NEWMAN: In that case I shall perhaps sit down and – MR JUSTICE PETER SMITH: I was planning on giving an oral judgment at 2 o’clock tomorrow. MR NEWMAN: Yes, it is.”