"We are not entirely clear what form of contact or what form of order the official solicitor seeks your Honour to make today."
"I think all parties accept that, as a matter of form, direct contact between A and his father, if properly managed, properly arranged, properly supervised and properly assessed, may be of benefit to the child."
"I think beyond that we differ in that none of us can put forward a package whereby all of those preconditions can properly be met, given that this is going to be a private law order and the responsibility of the mother to operate. So I think that is properly where we got to in terms of discussions and I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong."