"They have turned out and I entirely accept to be well adjusted, sensible adults who have done well."
"Well, I understand that argument. I do not think it is realistic. What we have to look at here is …" and he then gave the names of the two children with learning disabilities. He continued: "
"They have vulnerabilities..."
"recognise in terms of the purely practical aspects of parenting, changing nappies, feeding and so on that there is no reason to think [the grandparents] are not capable of doing that."
"What troubles me is that other areas of risk which inevitably would be involved in my view."