“I remember something that happened around January, maybe 6/7 months ago, after we had been out for drinks. At the end of the night, we had ordered Ubers home but [the claimant] was trying to persuade [C1] to cancel her Uber and go home with him. He was pestering her and [the claimant] said he could drive her home, but the Uber arrived and so nothing else happened. I do know that [C1] felt uncomfortable with this.”
“I'm not aware that he's made advances to anyone – he’s been a bit flirty but not overstepping mark or necessarily made me feel uncomfortable. I'm not aware of him acting like that on previous occasions.”
“Hi [C1], did you get home okay?”
“That night, would you describe yourself as feeling uncomfortable…when [the claimant] was waiting outside or when he put his hands on your waist?”
“I did. I definitely felt uncomfortable when he first put his hands on me and I thought it was strange he had waited outside the toilet for me when I had told him not to. I do not know why he tried to put his hands on me a second time. I had told him to stop.”
“I find the change in her evidence is plainly as a consequence of a leading question. I find this significantly reduces the weight which can be attached to the response.”
“She then pulled me back into the disabled toilets. She told me he had tried kissing her but she was vague. She was obviously in shock…It was her face. She looked shocked…She looked very broken, shocked almost statuesque. I asked her what had happened and she said he had kissed her, she could not get out and he was standing in front of the door. She said she did not know what had happened but she could not get out.”
“According to CCTV it seems consensual from both sides. Female A initiates a hug, Male A honours this. They are hugging for quite a while then start kissing and Male A gently directs towards the disabled toilet while hugging. Female A does not resist, no force was used at all.” “Male A directs, very gently. No resistance from Female A. They are hugging, kissing, Male A makes the move and Female A agrees.”
“Female A smiling, Female B looks surprised, Male A smiling. They all talk in a normal manner, no argument took place. None of them are frustrated or distressed.”
“I find there is no other way to put this.[C1]’s version of events immediately before the accessible toilet incident is wholly unsupported by the CCTV footage description and wholly incredible. However, the issue is whether she deliberately gave false evidence. Having given careful consideration to all of the documentary and oral evidence, I can find no basis to underpin Ms Banga’s reasoning that Colleague 1 did not deliberately give false evidence.”
“...I am not confident that you have been fully transparent in your account about what happened in July. By way of illustration, you denied emphatically that anything at all physical had happened with [C1], but changed your account on being provided with a description of the CCTV footage. As I have mentioned, I do not consider it credible that you went into the accessible toilet to continue a conversation that could easily have taken place outside of it. Given the serious nature of the concerns we were discussing with you, I am concerned by this potential lack of transparency...” 148. Ms Banga explained her decision to dismiss, rather than impose some lesser sanction, as follows: “...I did consider issuing you a final written warning, but I do not feel that such a sanction would be appropriate given the nature of your behaviour on two separate occasions (as explained in the findings in this letter), the need to protect our employees from harassment, and my concern at the veracity of your initial account...”
“I find that there is nothing within the WhatsApp messages to indicate that the claimant invited C1 to go back to the office and that there was an underlying sexual motive to that invitation.” (ET § 157) It further concluded that BH’s evidence: “…also does not suggest that there was an invitation to return to the office because of a sexual motive”
"The lie may have a heavy bearing on the issue in question, or the tribunal may consider that it is of little moment. Everything depends on the facts. For example, if in the Eritrea cases the Secretary of State had prima facie evidence that the appellants had left legally, the tribunal might think it appropriate to put considerable weight on the fact that the claimant told lies when seeking to counter that evidence. The lie might understandably carry far less weight where, as in YL itself, the judge is satisfied that the appellant has lied where the lie is against her interests."
“Although the analogy is not exact, it is close enough for these words to be of relevance in the present context. I have already found above that the CCTV footage description demonstrated that [C1’s] evidence regarding the accessible toilet incident was wholly incredible. I have already found it was deliberate false evidence. I find that her false evidence regarding the accessible toilet incident was not a mistake and did not arise out of confusion. I find [C1’s] false evidence relates to a significant issue, namely her allegation of sexual assault. That allegation is similar in nature to the January 2023 allegation of sexual harassment. [C1] was not interviewed by Ms Banga regarding the discrepancies in her evidence against the CCTV footage description. I have already found this was a lost opportunity in establishing her motive for making allegations of sexual assault.”
“…strongly undermine[s] the allegation that the claimant sexually harassed [C1] in January 2023”
“I have considered whether the general evidence is sufficiently strong to counteract ‘the negative pull’ of [C1’s] lies. Having considered all of the evidence, I find that the general evidence is wholly insufficient to counteract ‘the negative pull’ of [C1’s] lies. This is because the general evidence indicates that the claimant’s behaviour was not considered inappropriate by many other colleagues. I conclude that the negative pull of [C1’a] lies is such that the that her allegation that the claimant harassed her in January 2023 is wholly undermined.”
“…failure to question [C2] in a neutral way… significantly reduces the weight which can be attached to the subsequent evidence by [C2] to Ms Banga that the claimant made [C2] feel uncomfortable.”
“…significant and weighty factors affecting [C1’s] credibility as a witness in relation to the January 2023 incident” that the respondent’s conclusion about the January 2023 incident was one to which no reasonable employer would have come. It concluded (at ET § 182) “I find that a reasonable employer acting reasonably would consider a lie on a material matter to be significant and that it should be accorded adequate weight.”
“The respondent’s case that the claimant’s behaviour was two serious acts of misconduct over six months was also not within the band of reasonable responses because it is clear that the respondent did not speak to the claimant immediately or in the period post January 2023 allegation to inform the claimant that his behaviour was unacceptable.”