“Ian David has just told me that your not working? We need PRL checked and kept up to date so that we don’t have a reoccurrence of jan/feb problem? HHS? I welcome ur reply.”
“Hi Mian from your email about putting us on the job retention scheme and from my own reading too my understanding is that I’m not allowed to work in this period. This is different from self employed people who get the money even if they do work but I don’t want to cause any problems for you or I by working while you’re claiming the grant. I believe David is still working on PRL? Kind regards Ian.”
“Noted and understand your position. Once c19 is sorted out there will b a time lag of 3-6 months which I will have to fund even though clients will not have money to pay me. Therefore I’ll look after the staff who r looking after my business first? Enjoy your holiday.”
“Milan, I am thinking about your business. There is no option to continue working under the job retention scheme and if we break the rules and HMRC find out you risk having to pay back all of the grant money that they will give you for wages. Surely it’s not worth taking that risk when you have self employed people that are still able to work during this time without it causing any problems.”
“It’s your choice today but it will be mine later.”
“…Unfortunately, I am being told that the Government Coronavirus Job Retention grants are not going to be available for businesses to access in April as was anticipated. This means that if we keep all of the staff on furlough as employees, we would need to pay 80% of salaries not only for this month but probably for May and June as well. This is not a situation that the company can sustain as we simply do not have the cash flow to enable us to do this. It is therefore with regret that I am having to take very difficult decisions with regards to making certain staff redundant. Whilst I have not yet made a final decision I am placing you at risk of redundancy and need to speak to you urgently tomorrow (Thursday9th April 2020 ) to discuss the possibility of making you redundant and whether there are any suggestions that you might have that would avoid this.”
“In this Act a ‘protected disclosure’ means a qualifying disclosure (as defined by section 43B) which is made by a worker in accordance with any of sections 43C to 43H.”
“(1) In this Part a ‘qualifying disclosure’ means any disclosure of information which, in the reasonable belief of the worker making the disclosure is made in the public interest and tends to show one or more of the following— (a) that a criminal offence has been committed, is being committed or is likely to be committed, (b) that a person has failed, is failing or is likely to fail to comply with any legal obligation to which he is subject.”
“27. First, and at the risk of stating the obvious, the words added by the 2013 Act fit into the structure of s.43B as expounded in Babula (see paragraph 8 above). The tribunal thus has to ask (a) whether the worker believed, at the time that he was making it, that the disclosure was in the public interest and (b) whether, if so, that belief was reasonable. 28. Second, and hardly moving much further from the obvious, element (b) in that exercise requires the tribunal to recognise, as in the case of any other reasonableness review, that there may be more than one reasonable view as to whether a particular disclosure was in the public interest; and that is perhaps particularly so given that that question is of its nature so broad- textured. The parties in their oral submissions referred both to the ‘range of reasonable responses’ approach applied in considering whether a dismissal is unfair under Part X of the 1996 Act and to ‘the Wednesbury approach’ employed in (some) public law cases. Of course we are in essentially the same territory, but I do not believe that resort to tests formulated in different contexts is helpful. All that matters is that the tribunal should be careful not to substitute its own view of whether the disclosure was in the public interest for that of the worker. That does not mean that it is illegitimate for the tribunal to form its own view on that question, as part of its thinking - that is indeed often difficult to avoid - but only that that view is not as such determinative. 29. Third, the necessary belief is simply that the disclosure is in the public interest. The particular reasons why the worker believes that to be so are not of the essence. That means that a disclosure does not cease to qualify simply because the worker seeks, as not uncommonly happens, to justify it after the event by reference to specific matters which the tribunal finds were not in his head at the time he made it. Of course, if he cannot give credible reasons for why he thought at the time that the disclosure was in the public interest, that may cast doubt on whether he really thought so at all; but the significance is evidential not substantive. Likewise, in principle a tribunal might find that the particular reasons why the worker believed the disclosure to be in the public interest did not reasonably justify his belief, but nevertheless find it to have been reasonable for different reasons which he had not articulated to himself at the time: all that matters is that his (subjective) belief was (objectively) reasonable. 30. Fourth, while the worker must have a genuine (and reasonable) belief that the disclosure is in the public interest, that does not have to be his or her predominant motive in making it: otherwise, as pointed out at paragraph 17 above, the new ss.49(6A) and 103(6A) would have no role. I am inclined to think that the belief does not in fact have to form any part of the worker’s motivation - the phrase ‘in the belief’ is not the same as ‘motivated by the belief’; but it is hard to see that the point will arise in practice, since where a worker believes that a disclosure is in the public interest it would be odd if that did not form at least some part of their motivation in making it.”
“An employee who is dismissed shall be regarded for the purposes of this Part as unfairly dismissed if the reason (or, if more than one, the principal reason) for the dismissal is that the employee made a protected disclosure.”
“Once the reasons for particular treatment have been identified by the fact-finding tribunal, it must evaluate whether the reasons so identified are separate from the protected disclosure, or whether they are so closely connected with it that a distinction cannot fairly and sensibly be drawn.”
“The statutory question to be determined in these cases is what motivated a particular decision-maker; in other words, what reason did he or she have for dismissing or treating the complainant in an adverse way.”
“On Sunday5 April 2020 , Mr Donaldson raised concerns to the Claimant that he felt the Claimant’s job was at risk. Specifically, Mr Donaldson expressed this was because the claimant was ‘not willing to work’ while on furlough.”
“Whatever exactly was said between the two, Mr Donaldson formed the impression that Mr Babic was sufficiently angry that he might dismiss the Claimant for refusing to assist with the PRL issue.”